{"conversationCode":"788-014","tapeNumber":788,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-788-014","startDateTime":"1972-09-29T19:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-29T20:04:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Sep-1972","startTime":"3:58 PM","endDate":"29-Sep-1972","endTime":"4:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On September 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:58 pm and 4:04 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 788-014 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 788-14\n\nDate: September 29, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:58 pm and 4:04 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n             The President's forthcoming state dinner for Sir Alexander F. Douglas-Home\n                 -Room arrangements\n                     -Red Room\n                     -Blue Room\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 4:04 pm.","filename":["788-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"788-013","nextCode":"788-015","transcript":[{"start":10.53,"end":13.09,"text":"So, and then we'll stay at the table."},{"start":14.45,"end":18.27,"text":"So that, so that everybody can talk to it."},{"start":18.29,"end":19.39,"text":"It's a very small group."},{"start":19.41,"end":22.94,"text":"They prefer to be left in the traffic a little bit."},{"start":22.96,"end":23.14,"text":"All right."},{"start":23.16,"end":23.24,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":23.26,"end":29.24,"text":"I know there's no women, but like whatever president you have, you leave the table to them."},{"start":29.26,"end":30.36,"text":"Yeah, start red."},{"start":30.38,"end":34.63,"text":"Okay, so we'll start red, go to the room, stay, and stay there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield to finalize logistical arrangements for an upcoming state dinner honoring Sir Alexander F. Douglas-Home. The discussion centered on room selection and seating configurations, specifically navigating the usage of the Red and Blue Rooms for the small group. They agreed on a plan to maintain the group's proximity at the table to facilitate conversation throughout the event.","topics":["State dinner","Alexander F. Douglas-Home","White House social events","Event logistics","Protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:43:09.983Z"},"topicSlugs":["state-dinner","alexander-f-douglas-home","white-house-social-events","event-logistics","protocol"],"audioDurationSec":42,"audioFiles":[{"file":"788-014.mp3","bytes":1007489,"durationSec":41.91,"bitrate":192330,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.287Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/788-014.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/788-014","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/788/conversation-788-014","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}