Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 791-003 Date: Tuesday, October 3, 1972 at 11:56 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Sanchez, Manolo; White House operator; [Unknown person(s)]; Malek, Frederic V.; Bull, Stephen B. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/791-003 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:06] I'll show you. [0:52] outside of each street. [0:55] The way they tilted. [0:56] He tried, he watched all this shit. [0:59] But the funny thing is, you take a day yesterday where NBC didn't even have any control. [1:04] That was incredible. [1:06] They mentioned it being half and half. [1:08] I was expecting it to be the other half. [1:11] They're so tired of the stuff, the effect. [1:29] Well, what I mean is they don't make a commercial. [1:44] But be that as it may, what I'm getting at is [2:12] Probably not. [2:13] The Post is the one that's just totally sold out on the news page. [2:17] It's got opposition except for Amy Johnson. [2:21] Well, except for the other one. [2:22] Why are they running that series? [2:23] I would think they would have canceled that. [2:26] I think because of the paper. [2:28] I don't know. [2:31] They're going to sink some things in, I'm sure. [2:54] Apparently it's worse than it was in 68. [3:00] Because we're [3:30] But it certainly, just the fact of our getting anything at all, that's a change in 68. [3:38] Well, yeah, I'm sure you realize about it. [4:19] They insult our intelligence. [4:22] I mean, I'm speaking out of the ownership. [4:25] They insult our intelligence. [4:26] We know what the price they're doing. [4:27] Yeah. [4:31] The NBC one is one we've got to, they, you know, from the Cassie Magnum period on, they've talked a little about restitution, but they've done nothing. [4:40] They're not going to. [4:43] And they now say they'll, they're going to take McGovern on for senator. [4:56] That's one place he's got to play it rough. [5:00] I really mean that. [5:01] You cannot allow a reporter to do you in. [5:03] Just find a way to brush aside, woman or not. [5:08] That's the one thing I disagree with. [5:10] He does tend [5:33] I don't know. [5:34] Does it help the fact that you treat rather well? [5:38] No, we don't treat rather very well. [5:41] We did, we tried it, and it didn't help. [5:43] That's for sure. [5:43] It doesn't help to treat fear more. [6:09] You asked about Judge Waddy, the common cause. [6:14] He's a dumb black actor who was appointed to the municipal court in 1967 by President Johnson. [6:23] Easily swayed, very unpredictable, doesn't follow the law. [6:27] He's a second grade lawyer. [6:29] He's very impressed with names. [6:41] Every place every place [7:38] You know, I sign appointments in here for the residents. [7:42] Something like that. [7:43] My certified is really black. [7:44] I'm holding this circuit card. [7:47] Shit, all of a sudden, it's on the pages. [7:48] It's building. [7:50] You know. [7:50] All you need to watch for the copy of it. [7:55] I'm holding it down. [7:57] I'm holding it down. [7:57] I'm holding it down. [8:02] I'm holding it down. [8:03] I'm holding it down. [8:06] I'm holding it down. [8:20] He's got some good wireless stuff. [8:21] Great. [8:23] Great. [8:24] I bet he did it with great knowledge. [8:27] Actually, Buchanan didn't do it. [8:29] Alan put a crew on it. [8:36] Dave Gergen and Ray Price's crew did most of the work. [8:40] Tex Lazar and Robin Signy. [8:42] Leslie Arch over at 1701. [8:45] They did a hell of a job. [8:48] They went back. [8:49] They were... [8:50] use clues other than there's so many. [8:51] You can use more Alan's stuff as the guide. [8:53] And they read it back, and they read all the columns from the spring of 71 to the present. [8:59] Those were the 18th and 11th columns. [9:01] That's right, from the 14th column. [9:05] And then they reviewed all the TV network commentary. [9:08] Great, great. [9:10] During this year, plus the instant analyses after all presidential addresses, 70, 71, and 72. [9:21] the tapes got verbatim transcribed. [9:27] And they pulled out. [9:28] Joe Graff went surprised. [9:37] He said, first of all, you have to recognize journalists don't make as many flat predictions as you might expect. [9:44] They usually hedge their comments so carefully they can't be caught off base. [10:16] I've got a couple of pieces of paper on a... [10:26] Very good. [10:28] It was a fun actual book. [10:31] But you think so? [10:34] I've got to close this up. [10:39] Well, that's an absurd book. [10:42] Say, brother, we've got this to ourselves. [11:14] for instance. [11:51] President is sharing a record. [11:52] Said Wright says, if you need to, I think it will get through the Congress. [11:55] I have great doubts about it. [11:56] Ideally, you wish this could be done. [11:58] At least I do. [11:58] But these things ought to be tried. [12:00] It seems to me in quiet times. [12:05] Good. [12:05] Good. [12:06] After the mining, he said, I would suspect the sun will not come on. [12:10] Good. [12:13] But I would believe it. [12:15] Right. [12:15] Say, the sun will not. [12:23] I would suspect that. [12:27] But if you're the Vietnam and that money hasn't come [12:55] People have a cruise that might not be available tonight. [13:04] My feeling now is to do it at 11 rather than 3. [13:15] I think it's a lot better. [13:27] It's better in, were you able to ship? [13:30] Yeah, we have to anyway. [13:32] I'm just not ready. [13:33] There's still, of course there is. [14:15] I wonder if it is a problem. [14:17] I wonder if it's a problem. [14:20] Well, it could be. [14:21] The time it is, why don't you have a group of people go up and have a price. [14:26] What do you say? [14:27] I really try to. [14:28] I've heard you say you don't have to do anything. [14:30] But don't give them an inch. [14:31] That's my point. [14:33] That's my point. [14:34] At this particular time. [14:35] Later on, I'd say, screw you. [14:37] I really have to go. [14:38] I could still do it. [14:39] If I had a son, of course, you'll wipe him out. [14:42] Let him say something. [14:49] that we just say, let's just not have it. [14:52] Why don't you believe in us and not believe in us? [14:54] I don't want to see it. [14:59] I don't want to see it. [15:31] That was a good shot. [15:33] Good one. [15:59] If not, why do you give them a chance to write? [16:02] Don't you agree? [16:03] Yeah, that's why I don't think you ought to go to Florida, for instance. [16:06] What about Camp David? [16:08] Camp David, I don't think, works that way. [16:10] See, we were at Camp David yesterday, but you wouldn't put me down. [16:12] It's a big thing. [16:16] Well, in this case, I would say that you want to go to Florida. [16:35] It'd be my intention to come back. [16:36] It's going to be Wednesday night. [16:38] I'll come back Wednesday night. [16:39] I'll come back. [16:42] I'll come back. [16:48] I'll come back. [16:48] I'll come back. [16:49] I'll come back. [16:50] I'll come back. [16:50] I'll come back. [16:51] I'll come back. [16:51] I'll come back. [16:52] I'll come back. [16:52] I'll come back. [16:52] I'll come back. [16:53] I'll come back. [16:53] I'll come back. [16:54] I'll come back. [16:54] I'll come back. [16:55] I'll come back. [16:55] I'll come back. [16:56] I'll come back. [16:57] I'll come back. [16:57] I'll come back. [16:57] I'll come back. [16:58] I'll come back. [16:59] I'll come back. [16:59] I'll come back. [17:00] I'll come back. [18:09] It's a new union. [18:15] It's a new union.