Conversation 791-005

On October 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and officers of the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization, including John F. Leyden, Robert E. Poli, and Robert C. Sturgil, as well as Henry C. Cashen, II and the White House photographer, met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:17 pm to 12:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 791-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 791-5

Date: October 3, 1972
Time: 12:17 pm - 12:24 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John F. Leyden, Robert E. Poli, Robert C. Sturgil and Henry C. Cashen
II; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

         Introductions

         Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization [PATCO]
             -Morale
                  -Comparison to 1968
             -Relationship with Administration
             -Department of Transportation

         [Photograph session]
             -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

         Presidential air travel
             -Peking, Moscow, Samarkand
             -Lt. Col. Ralph D. Albertazzi
                  -The President’s view
                       -Peking, Moscow
                             -Henry A. Kissinger's trips

                                        (rev. Nov-03)

         Layden
            -Cleveland
                -Schedule
                    -Andrews Air Force Base
                        -Unknown place

         Anti Ballistic Missile [ABM] Treaty

         Draft

         Presidential cuff links
             -Presidential seal

         Pins
                -Wives

         Administration’s relationship with PATCO

         The President's war service
             -Navy
             -Aircraft controllers
             -South Pacific Combat Air Transport Command [SCAT]
                 -Duties
                      -Equipment
                      -Casualties

         Airplane safety
             -Compared to automobile safety

Leyden et al. left at 12:24 pm.

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

John Lane, Mr. President.
Well, how are you, Mr. President?
I'm glad to meet you.
I'm Paul.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I'm Chris.
I'm Mr. Foster.
I'm Mr. Foster.
Oh, we've got the whole car here.
Very well, guys.
Congratulations.
Thank you very much.
You want to explain something?
I'm sure they're helping.
Yeah.
Here we are.
Thank you.
Long hours.
Long hours.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
We want to work with you.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That's good.
I'm going to pick on the colleague.
We'll take one first.
All right.
All right.
Are you a viewer?
Yes, sir.
Oh, yeah.
I was just elected to office.
Did you work the coming of Andrews?
Yes.
I don't think she's least of all in the crowd.
Keep up.
That was a great moment.
Great start.
Where are we?
I don't know.
We have to do the next one.
I guess that'll be here at this moment.
All right.
See you.
Bye.
Good.
Thank you.
It was wonderful.
And because wives are always wonderful.
Right.
Here's the seal.
You can see the drawer in there.
There.
That's where the pen is.
So, uh, you can, uh, sort of not part of the domain law.
That's your, that's your, that's your, that's your, that's your, that's your, that's your, that's your,
I was in the Navy.
Airplane crashes, a hit line.
Automobiles, right at this moment, there are probably 30 people in each one of those.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Actually, we need to keep track.
Let's see what time it is.
You mean all the destinies are out.
We need to keep track.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is so interesting.
This is great.
I'd like to give a little advice.
Thank you.
Good luck to you.
Thank you.