Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 791 › Conversation 791-010

Nixon, Woods & Bull on Memorial services and Personal health updates

Tuesday, October 3, 1972 · 3:25 PM–3:32 PM ET · Oval Office · 6 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Bull, Stephen B.Conversation791-010 on Tape 791StartTuesday, October 3, 1972 at 3:25 PMEndTuesday, October 3, 1972 at 3:32 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 791-010 ↗

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President Nixon met with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to coordinate his upcoming schedule and address various administrative and personal matters. The discussion centered on arrangements for Harrison McCall’s memorial service, the health status of several acquaintances, and the coordination of travel and social commitments, including events involving Tricia Nixon Cox and William J. Casey. Stephen B. Bull joined briefly at the end of the meeting to facilitate the President's transition to a subsequent meeting in the Cabinet Room involving Elliot Richardson and other staff.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
They haven't made her to... Well, she has the time, sure.
Uh, they haven't.
She has about three events.
I just don't know.
But... You know, I'll check with her.
Cody can see the time.
I'm so proud of her.
You know the time?
Oh, yeah.
I think it may be time for Friday morning.
I just absolutely did have one.
I've had it, but I can't seem to get rid of it.
I thought Conlon had one at the end of the day.
He's got a hell of a situation.
He's had one since we were there.
Conlon?
Yep.
I thought he said he had one.
I thought he said he had one.
I thought he said he had one.
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
He's got a...
And he was tired of being tired.
Donald King, in his mind, was just so tired.
Yeah, when I talked to him, his voice was always clear.
He just didn't have the will to live anymore.
No, he really was just so tired of being tired.
I've heard tomorrow that I've got poor Kathleen's balance.
She doesn't need it.
She's got something in her.
It's like that.
It's an imbalance in the blood.
She may get possibly at home in three more weeks.
What?
At least three more weeks before she's home.
That's how bad it is.
That clock.
Of course, she's been sick for years.
I know.
She's got more spirits.
It's amazing.
She's already bouncing around.
Bouncing around.
Looks great.
Even out there.
She goes out.
Oh yeah?
She always puts the all the charm.
She's really quick.
Harry talks about being sick.
I've noticed that.
That's funny.
Most people are saying how they feel.
They start telling you.
They start telling you.
She goes, it's all fine.
It's fine.
And then to the Casey's for us.
Birthday party for them all.
This is Crosshair.
Birthday party for him.
His birthday was just, it was the first.
We sent a little logo over to him.
I remember, I thought it was later.
My first party, I used to go there, you know, but it was at Christmas.
You used to go there at Christmas?
But this is Bill Casey, he must have been 70 and down then.
Yeah, I also talked to him on the phone afterwards.
Oh, good.
Secretary Rich is here.

NARA Description

On October 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:25 pm to 3:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 791-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 791-10

Date: October 3, 1972
Time: 3:25 pm - 3:32 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

         Harrison McCall
             -[Condolence letter]
             -Memorial service
                 -William P. Rodgers
                 -Robert H. Finch
                 -Timing
                 -Tricia Nixon Cox’s schedule
                      -California
                      -The President’s recent conversation with Tricia Nixon Cox
                      -William R. Codus

Woods’s health

John B. Connally’s health
    -The President’s schedule
    -Television [TV] broadcast
        -California

McCall’s health
   -Harriet McCall’s letter to Woods
   -Leukemia
   -Conversation with the President, June 21, 1972
   -Leukemia

Kathleen (Carmody) Stans
    -Health
        -Woods’s recent conversation with Maurice H. Stans
    -Reflections from the President

The President’s schedule
    -Elliot L. Richardson

Weather

The President's schedule
    -Richardson
    -Camp David
    -Raymond K. Price
        -Speeches

Woods's schedule
   -Mrs. Dale [surname unintelligible]
        -Open house for Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson
   -William and Sophia (Kutz) J. Casey
        -Birthday party for Leonard W. Hall
             -Note

The President’s schedule
    -Casey
        -New York

                      -Dinner
             -Recent conversation with the President

Stephen B. Bull entered at 3:32 pm.

        The President's schedule
            -Richardson
            -John D. Ehrlichman
            -Kenneth K. Cole, Jr.
            -Cabinet Room

Bull and Woods left at 3:32 pm.

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  • 355-014 2:15 PM · 39 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Henry A. Kissinger, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:15 pm to 3:15 pm.
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  • 791-011 3:32 PM · 47 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Elliot L. Richardson, David C. Hoopes, John D. Ehrlichman, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, unknown person(s), Robert P. Griffin, William E. Timmons, Mark I. Goode, Robert Johnson, and John Marshall Gordon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:32 pm to 4:16 pm.
  • 791-012 4:16 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:16 pm and 4:24 pm.
  • 791-013 4:24 PM · 56 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Robert P. Griffin, and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:24 pm to 4:25 pm.
  • 791-014 4:26 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:26 pm to 4:28 pm.
  • 791-015 4:30 PM · 53 sec — United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 4:30 pm on October 3, 1972 and 11:05 am on October 5, 1972.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 791-010, October 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/791-010 (accessed October 23, 2026).