Conversation: 792-004
Prev: 792-003 Next: 792-005Start Date: Thursday, October 5, 1972 7:04 PM
End Date: Thursday, October 5, 1972 8:53 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Ehrlichman, John D.; MacGregor, Clark; Dole, Robert J.; Harlow, Bryce N.; Mitchell, John N.; White House photographer; Hodgson, James D.; Johnson, Donald E.; Evans, John F., Jr.Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On October 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, Robert J. Dole, Bryce N. Harlow, John N. Mitchell, White House photographer, James D. Hodgson, Donald E. Johnson, and John F. Evans, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:04 pm to 4:53 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 792-004 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 792-4
Date: October 5, 1972
Time: 3:04 pm - 4:53 pm
Location: Oval Office
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, Clark MacGregor, Robert
J. Dole, Bryce N. Harlow, and John N. Mitchell; the White House photographer was present at
the beginning of the meeting.
Greetings
The President's recent press conference
-Question and answer [Q&A] session
Seating arrangements
[Photograph session]
Consumer Protection Agency
-Senate filibuster
-Cloture vote
-Jacob K. Javits
-Charls H. Percy
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Welfare
Welfare bill
-Timing
-Medicaid
-Edward M. Kennedy
Congressional schedule
-Senate
-Michael J. Mansfield
-House of Representatives
-Six day rule
-Suspensions
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1h 14m 33s ]
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Tape Subject Log
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The President’s position on issues
-The President’s forthcoming radio speeches
-Amnesty
-Busing
-Defense cuts
-Government spending
-Taxes
-Government reorganization
-Health
-Arms control
-Welfare
-Rolls
-Cost
-Property taxes
-Prices
-Controls
-Cost of living
-Unemployment
-Taxes
-Congressional messages
-George S. McGovern's stands
-Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
-Polls
-Issues
-Robert Teeter’s views
-Amnesty
-Busing
-Abortion
-Marijuana
-George H. Gallup’s views
-Louis P. Harris’s views
-Amnesty
-McGovern
-Possible advertisment
-Vietnam veteran
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Average voter
-The president’s view compared to McGovern’s
-Youth vote
-Youth vote
-Abortion
-Busing
-Michigan
-Welfare
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Prospects
-Pilot programs
-Defense
-California
-Budget cuts
-Soviet Union
-South Vietnam
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Communist government
-Defense
-Jobs in defense industries
-Melvin K. Laird
-The President’s view
-Soviet Union
-Laird’s efforts
-Arms control
-Mutual and Balanced Force Reduction [MBFR]
-Soviet Union
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-US allies
-Israel
-US capabilities
-McGovern
-McGovern
-Communism
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Vietnam
-The President’s October 9, 1968 speech
-McGovern’s forthcoming speech
-McGovern
-Response
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Attack mode
-Charles W. Colson
-Corruption charges
-Foreign policy speech
-Cleveland
-Response
-Attack mode
-William P. Rogers
-Corruption charge
-Earl L. Butz
-Defense
-Amnesty
-Defense
-Welfare
-Government spending
-Taxes
-Press relations
-Law and order, crime, marijuana
-McGovern
-Ehrlichman’s previous conversation with an unknown
person
-Defense mode
-Position papers
-Farm policy
-Foreign policy
-Speech, October 5, 1972
-Corruption charges
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Foreign policy speech
-Response
-Rogers
-United Nations [UN]
-Laird
-Attacks on significant initiatives of the President
-Timing
-Vietnam
-South Vietnam
-Communist government
-Debate
-Frank F. Mankiewicz
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Press relations
-Handling of techniques compared to views
-James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
-Mary McGrory
-Thomas W. Braden
-Thomas Grey (“Tom”) Wicker
-Eastern Establishment, White house press corps views
-Defense cuts
-Amnesty
-Vietnam
-Welfare
-Busing
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-1972 election
-McGovern
-Rejection of views
-The New York Times
-The Washington Post
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
-American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
-Concern
-Separation of concepts from candidate
-Liberal establishment
-Thomas F. Eagleton
-Recent speech to United Press International [UPI] editors
-Television [TV]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 9s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:04 pm.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 4:44 pm.
Campaign practices
-Response to McGovern's style and charges
-Jerome R. Waldie
-The President’s speeches to editors
-McGovern and staff
-Harlow’s view
-Standing in the polls
-Speech to UPI editors
James D. Hodgson, Donald E. Johnson and John F. Evans entered at 4:44 pm.
Greetings
Veterans education bill
-Monthly benefits
-Amount
-Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
-Vance Hartke
-Vietnam veterans
-Veteran’s organizations
Haldeman, Ehrlichman, MacGregor, Dole, Harlow, and Mitchell left at 4:46 pm. Hodgson,
Johnson, and Evans remained; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the
meeting.
Veterans education bill
-Monthly benefits
-Amount
-Clarence E. Miller
-Role
[Photograph session]
-Left handed people
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
Veterans education bill
-Edward R.F. Cox
-Veterans
-College campuses
-Medical care
Unemployment rate
-Veterans
-Numbers
-American industry
-“Belt tightening”
-Productivity
Vietnam War era veterans
-Numbers at work
-Age group
-Goals
-Reserves
-Manpower Authorization Voucher [MAV]
-School
1972 campaign
-Hodgson’s recent meeting with labor leaders
-Michigan
-McGovern
-American Association of Junior Colleges
-Fred Schwengel
-The President’s view
-University, Iowa City
-Abraham Lincoln
-Recent speech
-Lincoln
-Comparison to the President
Weather
-The President’s schedule
-Camp David
Possible Cabinet meeting
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Hodgson, Johnson, and Evans left at 4:53 pm.