{"conversationCode":"792-005","tapeNumber":792,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-792-005","startDateTime":"1972-10-05T20:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-05T20:55:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Oct-1972","startTime":"4:53 PM","endDate":"5-Oct-1972","endTime":"4:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:53 pm and 4:55 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 792-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 792-5\n\nDate: October 5, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:53 pm and 4:55 pm.\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n        The President's schedule\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:55 pm.","filename":["792-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"792-004","nextCode":"792-006","transcript":[{"start":1.63,"end":4.01,"text":"Mr. President, 20 minutes was allocated to this."},{"start":4.05,"end":6.86,"text":"How long would you imagine 20 minutes?"},{"start":6.88,"end":7.6,"text":"What time is it now?"},{"start":7.62,"end":10.72,"text":"It's five minutes and five seconds."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to discuss the management of the President's daily schedule. The two men evaluated the duration of a specific meeting, with Bull noting that twenty minutes had been allocated for the appointment. The brief exchange served to verify the current time and ensure the President remained on schedule for his upcoming commitments.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Time management","Stephen B. Bull","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:48:14.972Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","time-management","stephen-b-bull","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"792-005.mp3","bytes":344815,"durationSec":14.29,"bitrate":192993,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.287Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/792-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/792-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/792/conversation-792-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}