Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 794-005
Date: Monday, October 9, 1972 at 11:58 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Marsh, Winston W.; Low, James; Cashen, Henry C., II; White House photographer
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/794-005

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[0:00] President Bill Martin.
[0:02] Aye.
[0:02] Aye.
[0:02] I'll give you your number.
[0:04] I'll give you your number.
[0:07] I'll give you your number.
[0:10] I'll give you your number.
[0:12] I'll give you your number.
[0:14] I'll give you your number.
[0:15] I'll give you your number.
[0:17] I'll give you your number.
[0:29] conversation about that, I think, that most of us have.
[0:32] Well, as I said, we were a pretty powerful group.
[0:35] It's not the right start for me.
[0:39] Well, I don't know what I have.
[0:42] You were a model of them.
[0:44] Yeah, so that's tough.
[0:45] Yeah.
[0:46] I just came back from Las Vegas, which is even worse.
[0:49] Oh!
[0:49] I don't know.
[1:00] I wish they can.
[1:01] Yes, yes.
[1:02] What's that?
[1:03] You want to look at each other?
[1:04] Yes, I think let me tell them.
[1:05] All right.
[1:06] Let me try to find one.
[1:11] Oh, yeah.
[1:12] Here we go again.
[1:13] Now I've got it.
[1:14] That doesn't want to get...
[1:28] Right now we'd like to get my mom to get one too.
[1:30] Sure, you've got to get the professional father to do it.
[1:34] He'll be right out here to call it.
[1:39] We have people there from 50 states, as opposed to 17, 18 countries.
[1:46] Yeah, and we did a battle.
[1:48] President of the West.
[1:49] And we had to teach this to the Italians and the Iranians.
[1:59] Well, I suppose that I don't have a kind of figure, so we'll have to vote.
[2:29] These people are responsible.
[2:32] You're basically exactly the same.
[2:35] Mr. President, these are all tires.
[2:53] They weren't associations.
[2:54] Oh, I thought you were an association.
[2:56] I'm not an association.
[2:57] I represent the tirade industry.
[3:00] Yeah, you're a target.
[3:01] That's why we were in Las Vegas.
[3:02] These were our people who were there, including tirades in Japan and Mexico and South Africa and England and France, etc.
[3:10] So it's a good, broad-based spectrum.
[3:13] Next time we have to... We had several resolutions on the floor on some of the issues.
[3:25] welfare people and so forth.
[3:27] I bet they're down on some of those.
[3:31] In fact, we have a great deal of trouble getting people to work.
[3:35] I'll have to just mention the welfare issue.
[3:37] You have the tariffs.
[3:38] Well, because of the taxes.
[3:40] Yeah, well, you know, basically.
[3:41] I'm tired of that.
[3:43] About 50 years ago, we were up in service.
[3:49] That's a highly competitive thing.
[3:50] You need people to get off their butts and do a little work.
[3:53] You know what I mean?
[3:56] You just can't have all these loafers.
[3:59] And it's a good business, too.
[4:01] If a guy works, he can make himself a good living.
[4:03] Right.
[4:04] That's right.
[4:05] It's contented.
[4:06] It's contented.
[4:07] Oh, yeah.
[4:07] I was looking through the weekly television shows.
[4:10] You'd see those ads, you know, as Ronald was tired over those spikes and so forth.
[4:15] You know, that's true.
[4:17] Are they really that good?
[4:19] Yes, they are.
[4:20] Are they that good?
[4:21] 40,000 miles.
[4:23] Yes, we have a fear of Christ.
[4:24] What is the name of that call again?
[4:27] It's a new European.
[4:30] The Michelin?
[4:31] No, no, no.
[4:33] No, it's a Titan tire.
[4:34] It's a radio.
[4:35] It's a new radio tire.
[4:36] Radio, yeah.
[4:37] Is that green?
[4:39] No, the radio tire is right here.
[4:44] But it's not a gravitational release.
[4:52] Around town.
[4:53] Around town.
[4:54] But on a highway, he had sailed.
[4:56] I noticed the race drivers like it.
[5:00] Yeah, they put them off their ass.
[5:02] It has to do with driving characteristics.
[5:04] You have a tendency to oversteer.
[5:07] You know, and then your car starts to jerk.
[5:09] And then you jerk it back, and then you get up.
[5:13] There's so much more to it.
[5:18] But he laughed at me.
[5:31] or recaps we call them.
[5:33] Recaps is a dirty word.
[5:34] And we're still retreading.
[5:35] We're doing about 31 million passenger tires this year, almost 11 million truck tires.
[6:00] It's a great large town.
[6:02] Incidentally, our president is from your part of the country.
[6:07] He's from Long Beach.
[6:08] Oh, yeah.
[6:09] Well, that's a good market.
[6:12] It used to be a town.
[6:14] That's eight miles from where I grew up.
[6:19] We have a very strong art tradition.
[6:41] That was a great reception.
[7:10] Yeah, we had about 100,000.
[7:12] That's a very, that's a relative small number.
[7:15] The difficulty is when you go to the other side, you can't go to the other side.
[7:19] Yeah, that means an awful lot of material.
[7:23] I don't know.
[7:25] We'll work something out.
[7:27] We'll be in a day when we want you to go.
[7:32] We'd like to.
[7:34] Pres, do you have a friend?
[7:41] This right close to your place, ma'am.
[8:08] That's right.
[8:09] That's right.
[8:10] That's his background.
[8:10] He's a tire man.
[8:11] You often kid about it.
[8:13] I go back and I hear it.
[8:17] I remember, you know, of course, the old days, you know, changing the tires and the tire tools.
[8:27] You ever take an old 33 and a half and try to take it off the tire tools and pack it with a cold pack?
[8:41] I'd be like, you know, being a higher man then, you really had to have it.
[8:45] I started therapist in 1930.
[8:47] You went too old.
[8:49] Yeah, I went too old.
[8:50] Yeah.
[8:50] I remember it was a 4.33 and a half, which was a 31.4, which was an oxygen.
[8:58] And eventually it got to the balloon tire, as you call it.
[9:01] So I was saying, I'm going to go back to that.
[9:03] I believe I'm going to go home.
[9:07] I'm going to go home.
[9:22] I don't know what SDP is, to be sure.
[9:53] I don't know why it would be a good bet, though.
[9:58] I mean, there's so much uncertainty in it.
[10:25] because that ain't my thing.
[10:27] I don't care for it myself.
[10:29] My friends don't, but the part of this, to me, it's just that long, long wait between the races, everybody's not running through your eye.
[10:41] About once a year, that's enough.
[10:44] In fact, everybody gets it.
[10:46] The jury just basically gives those dark men a trick, and we are now retreading those white track tires
[10:55] And it's quite a thing.
[10:59] I was amazed.
[11:00] We had 16 exhibits of mag wheels.
[11:04] And I never heard of mag wheels.
[11:06] Two years ago, when they made these wheels out of magnesium, then the word mag became sort of a symbol.
[11:13] And these kids saw these mag wheels, and they came to believe, and put them on their cars.
[11:19] And they astounded when they went on them.
[11:33] I know they do a great job.
[11:35] As a new president, you've got the Presidential Conference, which is the CEO of the Atlantic Conference.
[12:03] Thank you.
[12:05] I saw you again.
[12:06] Good luck.
[12:08] Thank you very much.