Conversation: 794-012
Prev: 794-011 Next: 794-013Start Date: Monday, October 9, 1972 4:46 PM
End Date: Monday, October 9, 1972 7:10 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Newhouse, Samuel I.; Klein, Herbert G.; Bull, Stephen B.; Dean, John W., IIIRecording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On October 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Samuel I. Newhouse, Herbert G. Klein, Stephen B. Bull, and John W. Dean, III met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 3:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 794-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 794-12
Date: October 9, 1972
Time: unknown after 3:10 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Samuel I. Newhouse and Herbert G. Klein; the meeting began in
progress.
[Photograph session]
-The President’s previous meeting with Newhouse
-1960
Newhouse Newspapers
-List
-Klein
-Mississippi
-Pascagoula
-Mississippi Press Register
-Mobile, Alabama
-New Orleans
-Coverage
-Mississippi, Alabama, New Jersey, New York
-Portland, Oregon
-St. Louis, Missouri
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Springfield, Massachusetts
-The President’s visit as Congressman
Refreshment
Newhouse Newspapers
-Newark, New Jersey
-Newark Star-Ledger
-Previous prosperity
-Unions
-Newark News
-Effect of endorsement on state
-Cleveland Plain Dealer
-Thomas Vail
-Property
-Circulation numbers
-Compared to Cleveland Press
-California
-Los Angeles Chronicle
-Family ownership
-Los Angeles Examiner
-Newhouse’s attempt to buy
-Dennis McElroy
-Marriage
-Television
-San Diego
-Los Angeles
-San Jose
-Ridder Publications
-Sacramento Union
-John Copley
-Stock ownership
-Copley’s health
-Gift for Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Mitzi (Epstein) Newhouse
-Vogue interview
-Vogue, House and Garden
-Newhouse ownership
-Mitzi Newhouse
-Possible letter from Mrs. Nixon
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Mrs. Nixon’s location
-New York
-Chicago
-Columbus Day
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Newspapers ownership
-Department of Justice
-Stock ownership
-New York Stock Exchange
-Potential problems with bureaucracy
-Group ownership
-Los Angeles Times, William Randolph Hearst
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:10 pm.
Schedule
-John E. Ehrlichman
-John W. Dean, III
-Position
-Hair length
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:23 pm.
Television-newspaper ownership
-Public interest groups
-Possible attacks on Newhouse
-Klein
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-The President’s view
-New York Daily News
-WPIX
-Jack Quinn
-Chicago Tribune
-Anti-business establishment
-The President’s view
-Anti-trust enforcement
-US competitiveness
-Europe
-Soviet Union
-John B. Connally
-Interest in subject
-The President’s interest
Dean entered at 3:23 pm.
Introduction
-Dean’s background
-Department of Justice
Philosophy toward television-newspaper ownership
-Newhouse Newspapers and stock ownership
-Copley
-Vogue
-Congress
-Department of Justice
-Federal Communications Commission [FCC]
-Administration standard
-Anti-trust justifications
-Ecology, equal rights
-Money
-Counter advertisement
-Serving the public interest and objections
-Buffalo
-Syracuse
-Possible changes
-Newhouse’s desire to remain in newspapers, magazines
-Lawsuit
-Arthur Goldberg
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Abner J. Mikva
-Possible case
-Department of Justice anti-trust division
-Thomas Kauper
-Big business
-White House
-Dean
-Bureaucracy
-Control
-Department of Justice anti-trust division
-Attitude toward business
-Compared with the attitude in the White House
-Running of newspapers
-Editorial policy
-Newspaper Guild, Unions
-Washington Daily News
-New York
-Number of papers
-Portland, Oregon
-Editors and publishers
-Vail
-Franchises
-Harlan Sanders [Kentucky Fried Chicken]
1972 campaign
-Klein’s recent meeting with Newhouse in New York
-Blacks
-Number of newspapers in Alabama
-John J. Sparkman
-Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-Cleveland Plain Dealer
-Oregonian, Oregan Journal
-St. Louis Globe-Democrat [?]
-Bill Nickels
-St. Louis
Presidential gift giving
-Letter from Mrs. Nixon
Bull entered, left, and reentered at an unknown time before 3:34 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-Cuff links
-Presidential seal
-Pin
-Presidential seal
-Mrs. Newhouse
Newhouse, Klein, and Dean left at 3:34 pm.