{"conversationCode":"795-004","tapeNumber":795,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-795-004","startDateTime":"1972-10-10T16:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-10T16:09:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Oct-1972","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"10-Oct-1972","endTime":"12:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 795-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 795-4\n\nDate: October 10, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:09 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull.\n\n        Item for the President’s signature\n        The President's schedule\n            -James Brown\n                 -Clothing style\n                      -Elvis A. Presley\n                      -Press photograph\n                 -Background\n                      -Marital status\n                      -[Charles Bobbit]\n            -Letter\n\nButterfield and Bull left at an unknown time before 12:09 pm.","filename":["795-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"795-003","nextCode":"795-005","transcript":[{"start":0.48,"end":0.66,"text":"See?"},{"start":2.54,"end":2.88,"text":"See?"},{"start":5.58,"end":6,"text":"See?"},{"start":8.62,"end":16.59,"text":"You, uh... Just that one."},{"start":17.09,"end":20.73,"text":"What is this?"},{"start":20.77,"end":21.75,"text":"Just keep going."},{"start":21.79,"end":23.63,"text":"Keep going."},{"start":23.73,"end":24.77,"text":"All right."},{"start":24.83,"end":28.48,"text":"Okay, we just want to make sure he doesn't get stressed by all this pressing."},{"start":34.2,"end":39.37,"text":"All right, if the man is present, we can go."},{"start":40.21,"end":48.15,"text":"What's he supposed to do?"},{"start":48.23,"end":51.34,"text":"Just sit and talk to him for a while."},{"start":51.38,"end":56.34,"text":"James Brown apparently is very popular among the young people."},{"start":56.42,"end":58.12,"text":"He's black, he's one."},{"start":66.33,"end":66.81,"text":"Right."},{"start":66.89,"end":69.23,"text":"Right."},{"start":69.78,"end":70.14,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull to discuss a potential meeting with entertainer James Brown. The participants reviewed Brown’s background and cultural influence to assess the political benefits of an engagement with the artist. Nixon ultimately approved the scheduling of the visit to leverage Brown's popularity among young voters.","topics":["James Brown","Public relations","Presidential scheduling","Youth vote","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:52:15.416Z"},"topicSlugs":["james-brown","public-relations","presidential-scheduling","youth-vote","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":97,"audioFiles":[{"file":"795-004.mp3","bytes":2324061,"durationSec":96.76,"bitrate":192150,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/795-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/795-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/795/conversation-795-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}