{"conversationCode":"795-018","tapeNumber":795,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-795-018","startDateTime":"1972-10-10T19:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-10T19:49:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Oct-1972","startTime":"3:43 PM","endDate":"10-Oct-1972","endTime":"3:49 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Sanchez, Manolo; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:43 pm to 3:49 pm. 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Nov-03)\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 8s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left and H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at an unknown time before 3:43 pm.\n\n        The President’s meeting with Senate leaders\n            -Photograph session\n                -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., William E. Timmons\n                -Press\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 p.m.\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Barber\n            -Letters\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:49 pm.\n\nZiegler left at an unknown time before 3:43 pm.\n\n        Letters to Congressmen\n            -1972 election\n\nBull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 pm.\n\n        The President’s schedule\n            -Barber\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 14s ]\n\n                                        (rev. Nov-03)\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:49 pm.\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n        The President’s schedule\n            -Meeting with Senate leaders\n                -[Busing legislation]\n                -Press\n\nBull entered at an unknown time after 3:43 pm.\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Meeting with Senate leaders\n                -Timmons\n                -Press\n                -Ziegler\n            -Barber\n\nThe President, Bull and Haldeman left at 3:49 pm.","filename":["795-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L.","Sanchez, Manolo","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"795-017","nextCode":"795-019","transcript":[{"start":16.72,"end":16.78,"text":"you"},{"start":72.22,"end":86.39,"text":"Do you see if the fire is available now?"},{"start":110.78,"end":113.21,"text":"I just want to tell you, I think I've got a problem."},{"start":113.23,"end":116.7,"text":"I have an idea or two."},{"start":137.33,"end":149.7,"text":"So if you're near the end of what I know, it's been very hard to listen to John in the campaign."},{"start":149.72,"end":156.44,"text":"I would wish you the best on the front of some American need in Europe."},{"start":156.46,"end":158.54,"text":"Need your, uh, uh, yeah."},{"start":158.56,"end":158.9,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":160.08,"end":160.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":187.53,"end":190.91,"text":"This is only on this subject."},{"start":191.31,"end":204.96,"text":"Be sure to bring these people in here."},{"start":210.75,"end":219.62,"text":"The main thing you must tell them is in order to reach the press, they don't have to."},{"start":219.64,"end":223.88,"text":"We have to be out here before 20."},{"start":224.56,"end":229.52,"text":"Before we can figure this out, before it's a gentleman in order to catch the press, we'll have to go out now."},{"start":229.54,"end":232.16,"text":"Once they're in, there's no point in keeping them out."},{"start":232.99,"end":236.35,"text":"That's right."},{"start":236.37,"end":236.81,"text":"Tomorrow's the 18th, huh?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his staff, including Ronald Ziegler and H.R. Haldeman, to coordinate the logistics for an upcoming meeting and photograph session with Senate leaders regarding busing legislation. The participants focused on timing the session to ensure optimal media coverage and press accessibility. Additionally, the President managed routine administrative matters, including his personal schedule, correspondence with Congressmen, and a barber appointment.","topics":["Busing legislation","Press relations","Senate leadership","1972 election","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:53:32.374Z"},"topicSlugs":["busing-legislation","press-relations","senate-leadership","1972-election","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":250,"audioFiles":[{"file":"795-018.mp3","bytes":6007953,"durationSec":250.27,"bitrate":192049,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.287Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/795-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/795-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/795/conversation-795-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}