Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 797-012
Date: Friday, October 13, 1972 at 12:02 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rodgers, Donald F.; Usery, Willie J., Jr.; Utility Workers Union of America; Rigley, Harold T.; Joy, James, Jr.; Gallagher, Patrick; Luciano, C. J.; Murphy, Valentine; White House photographer
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-012

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[0:06] here at this group.
[0:08] Oh!
[0:34] I know where you're from.
[0:35] I know, that was a great group, wasn't it?
[0:37] President Gallagher.
[0:38] President Gallagher.
[0:39] Let's come over and sit down.
[0:41] Do you want to get a picture of this group?
[0:44] That's right.
[1:07] All right.
[1:10] All right.
[2:20] Thank you.
[2:58] Well, is there a comment?
[3:26] Oh!
[3:26] There could be...
[4:00] Yeah.
[4:01] Yeah.
[4:01] Yeah.
[4:02] Yeah.
[4:03] Yeah.
[4:04] Yeah.
[4:06] Yeah.
[4:07] Yeah.
[4:29] And this is at times when you have kids looking for coins to get a hold of.
[4:34] Yeah.
[4:35] This is a presidential comment.
[4:37] By the way, I'm going to get up to you.
[4:40] You all get up to me.
[4:43] Okay.
[4:43] I'm going to get up to you.
[4:49] I'm going to get up to you.
[5:05] And we came to this conclusion after doing a great deal of consideration.
[5:17] And I think we made the right decision.
[5:20] Well, we're going to try to do this.
[5:22] We're going to try to do this.
[5:24] We're going to try to make the decision.
[5:28] Well, that's what we're going to do.
[5:30] Well, that's what we're going to do.
[5:35] I don't like this.
[6:33] That's very controversial.
[6:39] But you've got one hell of a chance.
[6:43] I mean, I don't want to take another of your names.
[6:59] all the environmentalists find it.
[7:01] But you know, Dan, you've got to build those plants, right?
[7:06] You've got to build those plants.
[7:09] You've got to build those plants.
[7:11] You've got to build those plants.
[7:14] You've got to build those plants.
[7:34] I used to know Paul, he was a great friend of Gene McGarrett's.
[7:45] Oh yes, Gene was a wonderful guy.
[7:49] He died just the day before the election.
[7:55] This fall was with Connick and he said, Paul, if you try to come with me.
[8:04] That's right, and I had played golf with him.
[8:07] That's when I had a little more time, back in 66 or 67.
[8:15] Well, you know, it's a nice job, isn't it?
[8:19] Well, he handled it.
[8:21] It was construction.
[8:22] He handled it.
[8:22] You're recalling or not counting?
[8:25] Yes.
[8:25] You're recalling or not counting?
[8:27] Yes.
[8:28] You're recalling or not counting?
[8:33] You mean all the guys I played golf with are dying to retire?
[8:38] Watch out.
[8:38] I think you guys are like this.
[8:41] Well, I don't know.
[8:42] It's around here.
[8:47] These are all golfers.
[8:50] Okay.
[8:51] I was just getting to do their golfing.
[9:10] Well, if I get a cop phone, Mr. President, I'm not going to play with it.
[9:13] I was down at the border.
[9:15] I was going to get back.
[9:17] I was going to get back.
[9:19] I got shot.
[9:24] I'm going to get back.
[9:28] I'm going to get back.
[9:29] I'm going to get back.
[9:31] I'm going to get back.
[9:33] I'm going to get back.
[9:35] I'm going to get back.
[9:39] Well, I was excited to play, but the first time I played without the details, I was very happy.
[9:47] Yeah.
[9:48] I was very happy.
[9:49] That was an excuse.
[9:51] That was a very good excuse.
[9:53] I just thought that my feet get sore.
[9:54] That's enough.
[9:55] I mean, it's so funny.
[9:57] I don't know why that's a problem.
[10:08] How do he knows?
[10:09] Holden, they say, even today, he's as good as he ever was.
[10:16] Because it takes fire and earth and so forth.
[10:51] miss one pot, you lost it.
[10:55] Or two or three.
[10:56] It's a question of fractions.
[10:58] That's why it's a miserable game.
[11:00] I don't know.
[11:00] I don't know.
[11:30] That's a bad one.
[12:03] We also want to compliment the two men.
[12:06] That's what we came down for.
[12:09] A compliment.
[12:10] Are you all right?
[12:11] I'm all right.
[12:12] I'm all right.
[12:12] I'm all right.
[12:15] I'm all right.
[12:31] That's right.
[12:31] Thank you.
[12:32] The only thing they asked for a lot, I said, well, the President offered you
[13:14] We had an interest in the last week and all of us were on strike after that.
[13:23] We've been on strike 95 days.
[13:43] Well, there was more of the attitude.
[13:45] There was a different issue of really the attitude.
[13:48] In fact, there was a pilot from United this time.
[13:50] The answer was very nice.
[13:54] I may try to do an interesting thing.
[13:56] I was back at the table this morning.
[13:59] In fact, I was in the paper again.
[14:13] They told me an interesting thing, that the most controversial decisions that they've had, the ones they've had the biggest arguments about, are those involving executive salaries.
[14:23] So, we'll just be in here.
[14:25] A lot of people.
[14:26] A lot of people.
[14:48] for people that are in positions of responsibility.
[14:51] After all, it's a competitive world.
[14:53] You should be paid enough.
[14:55] You should be paid enough to move the areas that you have to move in, you know.
[15:03] Somebody was saying, you know, why do the labor leaders go to these fancy hotels and so on and so forth and their conventions?
[15:09] I said, why not?
[15:10] I mean, why should we say that they should be a different form?
[15:24] I'm usually concerned about your members, but after all, you are executives, you are leaders.
[15:29] You should act on it, not give him an issue.
[15:33] I think the partnership was just real.
[15:35] We used to be quite sensitive about it years back.
[15:56] Unless we change our constitution.
[15:57] You're like Marcos.
[15:58] He's going to have a trucker that's going to run his wife.
[16:02] Because he's not going to change the constitution.
[16:05] But anyway, these are your, these are the new couplings.
[16:07] You can see them out there.
[16:08] You know, with their color.
[16:10] And that's right on the fly.
[16:10] You can see the seal on the fly.
[16:16] And here's one for your wife.
[16:20] Which is the seal right on.
[16:26] And I'll get a picture.
[16:29] Okay?
[16:30] Also, would you say that now that they all get copies of the picture, they get copies of the picture, you know, and they want to somehow use it.
[16:39] But I have it personally, too, if you want.
[16:43] It's all I have to see on it, so don't get it out of power.
[16:53] And my signature
[17:06] That's all you get.
[17:06] Not an open door.
[17:09] Fair enough.
[17:10] Good luck.
[17:11] We're working on it.
[17:12] We're working on it.
[17:13] We do the right thing.
[17:16] I'm sure you did this morning.
[17:19] I don't know.
[17:20] We must do the right thing.
[17:22] If we don't do the right thing, we're going to do it up.
[17:25] If we don't do the right thing, we have a chance of no more.
[17:28] You're going to show that we support your position.
[17:37] Thank you.
[17:37] Bye.