Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 797-014
Date: Friday, October 13, 1972 at 12:22 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ruth, Claire (Hodgson); Thompson, Bobby; Branca, Ralph; Cashen, Henry C., II; White House photographer; O'Donnell, Harry; O'Donnell, Harry (Mrs.); Butrico, Tony
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-014

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[0:12] Hello there, how are you?
[0:14] Nice to see you again.
[0:34] No, no, no, no.
[0:46] Hi, how are you?
[0:47] Good to see you.
[1:03] You know one thing, I can show you my memories.
[1:07] I personally remember the whole run.
[1:12] But I forget.
[1:37] Thank you very much.
[1:39] You don't lie.
[1:42] You don't lie.
[2:13] Got it.
[2:15] That's true.
[2:16] The home run better by the home run.
[2:18] All right.
[2:19] All right.
[2:20] All right.
[2:21] All right.
[2:22] All right.
[2:41] Thank you.
[3:03] That's right.
[3:05] Together?
[3:07] All right.
[3:08] That we can't lose.
[3:40] Here we go.
[3:42] Here we go.
[4:13] uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh...
[5:04] I do both.
[5:05] I just had a chance.
[5:06] This office is going to go out.
[5:12] Just think, the doctors are down in L.A.
[5:14] They're still working.
[5:18] But not like it was in the old days.
[5:19] In the old days, it was not like it was in the old days.
[5:23] The senators?
[5:26] I don't know.
[5:28] I don't know.
[5:30] I don't know.
[5:41] I have never, I never saw him play.
[5:45] But he was a great one.
[5:48] He was a good one.
[6:11] Is that right?
[6:15] Well, I find, you know, an interesting thing.
[6:20] One thing about people in sports is that, sure, they don't fight on the field, but off the field, we can be very proud of people in sports.
[6:29] You know, I see these marvelous ads for the baseball players who are volunteering on drugs and the rest of it.
[6:37] And, you know, I mean, they're great people.
[6:40] month on some time.
[6:46] But on the other hand, they are, by giving that autograph, that shows you they're decent people.
[6:53] That's why I ask you, and I think you'll sell them on the fly, anybody who's in sports, competitive sports, who is the real favorite.
[7:04] Interesting thing.
[7:05] You notice that?
[7:05] The guys in sports, right?
[7:07] They're one of the...
[7:28] This is my speech to kids.
[7:29] About sports.
[7:30] To cooperate with one another.
[7:33] It doesn't matter.
[7:36] You can't play with this black and white.
[7:39] You can play a player.
[7:42] And that's today.
[7:43] It wasn't until 47 when Jackie came up, which is 25 years ago.
[7:46] He came up 25 years ago.
[7:48] But, you know, the things on the field, it's going on the field.
[7:52] Like I said, with Joe McCarthy, you know.
[7:54] Uh...
[8:04] He was here the other day.
[8:05] He came in here.
[8:06] He was in too.
[8:07] Let me tell you honestly, you'd think I was a great athlete, but I never made any team.
[8:12] But as far as baseball is concerned,
[8:31] No, I couldn't feel very good.
[8:34] I couldn't see it very well.
[8:37] But I admire you.
[8:39] I don't need glasses.
[8:41] I just couldn't see them.
[8:42] They're too fast.
[8:43] I didn't see that one through.
[8:45] Tell me, was it a high vessel?
[8:48] Yes, a high inside.
[8:50] I was wasted.
[8:51] He's too stupid to take it back.
[8:54] Which strike was it?
[9:15] I agree.
[9:18] Well, now we want you to have a little moment.
[9:23] These are the presidential couplers.
[9:26] The seal is on that white card.
[9:33] Here it is.
[9:35] Thank you.
[9:35] Thank you.
[9:36] Thank you.
[9:37] Thank you.
[9:38] Thank you.
[9:40] Thank you.
[9:42] Thank you.
[9:49] Now, all the different golfers...
[9:56] This is the president...
[10:21] Okay.
[10:21] How's that?
[10:22] Probably not.
[10:24] Hey, uh, a post office.
[10:27] Just use the holes in the water.
[10:32] I heard you guys got a hole in the water.
[10:35] Is that the hole?
[10:35] Yes, sir.
[10:36] Or I think the water is the president.
[10:38] It is the water green.
[10:39] You know what I'm thinking about?
[10:43] Yeah.
[10:43] If I ever see the dog, too.
[10:44] Yeah!
[10:45] Where do you post it?
[10:49] Oh, I don't really.
[10:53] I don't.
[10:54] But you live in New York, too?
[10:56] New York City?
[10:58] I still have the same apartment.
[11:04] It's half-harvest.
[11:05] You have all the memories you have, too.
[11:07] And I have to think technically, too.
[11:09] And you guys went four years ago.
[11:33] He won a game in 1933.
[11:34] I lost it up.
[11:35] I lost it.
[11:38] He did?
[11:39] He won a game.
[11:40] He won a game.
[11:41] So he was the R-1.
[11:42] You were the R-1.
[11:42] I was the R-1.
[12:03] Now, the reason I know this is a tricky question.
[12:08] How many pitches, or who of the four youngest pitchers to win 20 more games?
[12:13] And the question when I asked it, they really said, well, you've got to be one of them.
[12:17] Mark Feller, Christy Maddison, Dave Rube.
[12:23] See your figure?
[12:24] I'm going to get three more pens in the corner.
[12:27] He said, that's the question.
[12:30] He can't hear, and I can do it.
[12:41] I think, though, the greatest play of all that he did, and I remember this was Charter Root, you know, was with the Cubs in L.A. That year in the World Series, you know, where they booed him and he really got a couple strikes.
[13:07] Pointed at the bleachers.
[13:08] And whap!
[13:10] Everybody remembers that.
[13:11] Did that happen?
[13:13] Did he do it?
[13:14] He pointed it out there.
[13:18] The paper said it.
[13:20] He pointed it out there.
[13:22] True, it's true, it's true.
[13:24] Oh, God.
[13:24] The preacher said that we agreed.
[13:27] Oh, my God.
[13:44] Yeah, there was
[14:14] Yeah, I must say, you're right.
[14:18] God was with us.
[14:19] I must say, maybe even some of the rest of us, but we got hit like he did.
[14:23] You've got to have a little of the call.
[14:25] Yeah, and he loves everything.
[14:27] He loves everything.
[14:28] He loves everything.
[14:32] He loves everything.
[14:34] He loves everything.
[14:36] He loves everything.
[14:38] He loves everything.
[14:44] You had road.
[14:44] Road.
[14:45] Road.
[14:45] Road.
[14:45] Road.
[14:46] Road.
[14:46] Road.
[14:47] Road.
[14:48] Road.
[14:49] Road.
[14:50] Road.
[14:51] Road.
[15:15] Well, we wish you the best.
[15:16] Well, I just want you to know that you've got my support, and I'll do anything you ask of me.
[15:20] Oh, thank you very much.
[15:21] And my best to you is to make sure that you have the best of me.
[15:26] I hope to see you again.
[15:29] It's nice to see you again.
[15:30] I see you looking so very well.
[15:31] I saw you on television last night, and you looked wonderful.
[15:34] Oh, yeah, we did.
[15:34] I was just going to give you a shout-out.
[15:37] I said, you know that television is great, because I've been on it a couple of times.
[15:40] I've been on it for 30 years now.
[15:44] They murdered me.
[15:45] Good to see you.
[15:50] Thank you.
[15:50] Thank you.
[15:51] Well, you're welcome.
[15:53] You must have learned from those kids.
[15:55] I appreciate it.
[15:56] I really appreciate it.
[15:57] You know, both of you guys are really bigger.
[16:00] I mean, you've met before, but I think you're coming at me like you realize.
[16:17] Yeah, that's right.
[16:19] You don't look.
[16:20] Basically, you look bigger often.
[16:23] Many baseball players look much bigger.
[16:25] I mean, I've already used the knickers.
[16:45] The rollback was big.
[16:49] Now they say Larry Brown of the Washington Redskins, who weighs 210, is small.
[16:53] Never mind.
[16:54] Isn't that amazing?
[16:56] Well, anyway, good luck in LA.
[16:58] Bye.