{"conversationCode":"797-021","tapeNumber":797,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-797-021","startDateTime":"1972-10-13T20:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-13T20:05:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Oct-1972","startTime":"4:04 PM","endDate":"13-Oct-1972","endTime":"4:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Warren, Gerald L.;","description":"On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald L. Warren met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 797-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 797-21\n\nDate: October 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:04 pm and 4:05 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Gerald L. Warren.\n\n         The President's schedule\n             -James S. Copley\n                 -Meeting duration\n                 -Physical appearance\n                 -Helen (Kinney) Copley\n                 -Victor H. Krulak\n                      -US Marines Corps\n\nWarren left at 4:05 pm.","filename":["797-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Warren, Gerald L."],"prevCode":"797-020","nextCode":"797-022","transcript":[{"start":27.89,"end":30.16,"text":"Now, his wife, Alice, was with him."},{"start":30.22,"end":31.41,"text":"She couldn't do good."},{"start":31.43,"end":35.76,"text":"And his daughter-in-law, a man, Doc, who left, you know,"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Deputy Press Secretary Gerald L. Warren to briefly review the logistics and personnel involved in a recent visit from James S. Copley. The discussion touched upon the duration of the meeting, the physical appearance of the attendees, and the roles of associated individuals including Helen Copley and Victor H. Krulak. The exchange served as a debriefing regarding the administrative and personal aspects of the encounter.","topics":["James S. Copley","Gerald L. Warren","White House logistics","Personnel management","Victor H. Krulak"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:56:14.167Z"},"topicSlugs":["james-s-copley","gerald-l-warren","white-house-logistics","personnel-management","victor-h-krulak"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"797-021.mp3","bytes":976142,"durationSec":40.6,"bitrate":192343,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:35.087Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/797-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/797/conversation-797-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}