Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 797-023 Date: Friday, October 13, 1972 at 4:06 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Copley, James S.; Copley, James S. (Mrs.); Krulak, Victor H.; Warren, Gerald L.; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-023 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] Hello, how are you? [0:06] Nice to see you again. [0:09] How are you? [0:09] Nice to see you again. [0:29] You have pressure right here. [0:30] Pressure. [0:31] Like that. [0:33] All right. [0:36] All right. [0:44] Well, there has to be A-S-P-A. [0:46] A-S-P-A? [0:47] No. [0:48] A-S-P-A. [0:48] A-S-P-A. [0:49] A-S-P-A. [0:50] A-S-P-A. [0:51] A-S-P-A. [0:52] A-S-P-A. [1:00] But we're having a meeting at the board of the Association of Press. [1:14] I know it's what you want. [1:17] I know. [1:17] I remember five years ago. [1:19] It should have been us. [1:21] We've got to do it. [1:23] Wow. [1:29] Well, let me say it. [1:30] I'm sure I can't do all of this stuff. [1:36] I wish I could copy all of our papers. [1:37] I'm sure I can do all of this stuff. [1:42] I'm sure I can do all of this stuff. [2:11] And I was talking to him, and he said, what's your favorite telephone? [2:17] And he said, well, it's the number of my ex-comrades and stuff. [2:20] And I said, well, sure. [2:22] And he said, what's your favorite piece? [2:24] And I said, well, I have to say, it's certainly reassuring, you know, people who live in this town have to wake up and be watching the post at quite a few other times. [2:43] And then you get out into the country, one day in my time, I went to Atlanta yesterday. [2:47] It's a different world out there. [2:49] It's a different world in San Diego than it is here. [2:52] Do you read the Washington Post? [2:54] Not about the television. [2:55] Of course, I have, it's there. [2:57] But what I do, we have a news summary, unfortunately, which covers the country. [3:05] And also covers the television. [3:07] So I read that, and that gives me a good feeling. [3:11] As far as the editorial portion, [3:14] their own. [3:16] It's the same thing with the Times. [3:19] You have to read their news columns due to the fact that that's what the Congressman and Senator read. [3:26] So you've got to know what other people are being exposed to, but I don't even use it because they are advocates rather than reporters. [3:36] I don't want those advocates on our side. [3:40] They've been completely out of the [3:46] The paper we most of us read here, we're trying to get some sort of balance to the Star. [3:51] The Star, in fact, is a much more balanced paper. [3:56] It always has a mood to it. [3:59] Yes. [4:00] And the Post is just, you know, just an orderly thing. [4:05] Democratic National Committee in the middle of the time. [4:08] And that goes with the country. [4:09] I mean, there's the Pentagon Papers, or I think I can think of their... Oh, yeah. [4:17] But you agree that it's hard. [4:18] No, she's also repulsive. [4:19] I mean that from a personal perspective. [4:27] Sort of swapping. [4:46] just doesn't have any of the family graces, apart from our parents. [4:50] I really like the community people that have family graces. [4:57] Absolutely. [4:57] John, I went to work, I always around here, ever since I made that speech, I've always been here. [5:02] I hear it all the time. [5:04] Here it is, the press out here so much. [5:07] They hate it. [5:08] I don't know anything about it. [5:10] You're kidding. [5:11] All these people are people. [5:16] You know why? [5:16] Because the hard hats wear a flag. [5:18] They think the hard hats look illiterate, and also that they're for the country. [5:21] These people aren't for the country. [5:24] You walk into that question, but they still agree. [5:25] Now, when I say these people, there are three or four out there who don't want that. [5:30] Eight or ten. [5:32] They're basically, I don't think they're just want it. [5:47] give up our responsibility to the world and want to tear our nation out of existence. [5:52] It's almost untold. [5:53] We will not believe. [6:17] I'd say a couple times a week, that's what I do. [6:32] I do cartoons. [6:34] I do cartoons. [6:55] We went there to save ourselves, and there she was. [7:15] We got our guys across the border, and that these were not their own wage. [7:20] These are simply simple peasant girls. [7:24] with what the Soviet tanks ate [8:00] Always good. [8:38] I appreciate it. [8:39] You see, the way this is done... [9:21] Those are bean birds, of course, that we were given to the White House. [9:28] And here's a lovely thing from somebody you know, Walter Hansen. [9:32] He had that made, he had this made by Susan. [9:37] It's a seal. [9:39] The only one in the world I do, of course, the presidential seal in the stock. [9:42] But I think that's really nice. [9:46] It's that tree. [9:48] Dwarf trees are not unusual. [9:55] Oh, that's a 38-year-old. [9:57] That's a 38-year-old. [10:00] Oh, sure. [10:01] You know, that would be that. [10:02] It's this one, too. [10:03] That's a Dwarf Creek. [10:05] All of those trees were brought all the way. [10:08] You sent us a J-Gel. [10:09] You got the all... We didn't have a rope in the plane to bring anything back. [10:14] And that help was not as good as it used to be. [10:19] But it was from us. [10:20] Absolutely. [10:22] Well, we wish you the very best [10:24] I don't want to be in a position where I say, well, I've seen it and I've proven it or not, but I know you're going to like it from what I've heard. [10:38] Thank you. [10:39] Keep the faith. [10:40] Well, I'm glad to see you. [10:59] I know. [11:00] Get that over in your spirit now. [11:03] Are you going to tell the people something? [11:06] Yeah, I'm happy. [11:07] That's bad. [11:08] I don't know about it.