{"conversationCode":"797-031","tapeNumber":797,"conversationNumber":31,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-797-031","startDateTime":"1972-10-13T22:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-13T22:10:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Oct-1972","startTime":"6:03 PM","endDate":"13-Oct-1972","endTime":"6:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:03 pm to 6:10 pm. 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Monson\n\n        Saudi Arabia\n            -Franklin B. Lincoln, Jr.\n                -Recent telephone call\n                     -Camp David\n                -1970 trip\n\n             -[Faisal, King of Saudi Arabia] Malik Faisal ibn Abd-al-Aziz al-Saud\n             -Conversations with Saudi Arabian Ambassador [Ibrahim Al-Sowayel]\n                 -Gas\n                       -Arabian American Oil Company [ARAMCO]\n                       -Lincoln’s possible conversation with King Faisal\n                           -[Mudge, Rose, Gutherie, Alexander] and El Paso Natural\n                           Gas\n                           -King Faisal’s invitation to Lincoln\n                           -Timing\n                                -1972 election\n\nUS Jews\n    -Taft Schreiber\n        -Joseph Levine\n             -Telephone calls\n                 -The President’s trip to New York\n             -Soviet Jewish emigration\n                 -Public statements\n                      -Max M. Fisher\n\nWalter H. Annenberg\n    -Letter to Woods\n        -Photograph of the President [regarding Munich Olympic massacre]\n              -[John McMullen]\n                  -Form letter\n\nNational Association of Manufacturers [NAM]\n    -Presidential seal\n         -Bracelets for outgoing president’s wife\n\nGift of plates\n     -Lucy A. Winchester\n     -Library\n     -Cost\n     -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n     -Office of Protocol\n          -Purchase\n               -Lindberg [sp?]\n     -Use as State gifts\n\nWeather\n\nManolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:03 pm.\n\n         Instructions\n\nSanchez and Woods left at 6:11 pm.","filename":["797-031.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"797-030","nextCode":"797-032","transcript":[{"start":17.56,"end":18.48,"text":"I wonder..."},{"start":53.62,"end":56.82,"text":"Now, that goes to the station."},{"start":56.92,"end":58,"text":"Yeah, it's coming."},{"start":58.08,"end":60.12,"text":"So, it's kind of weird now."},{"start":60.14,"end":60.66,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":60.7,"end":61,"text":"Go ahead."},{"start":62.28,"end":70.53,"text":"If you want to describe that to me."},{"start":70.55,"end":72.17,"text":"I got it."},{"start":72.19,"end":72.49,"text":"I got it."},{"start":72.53,"end":73.75,"text":"I got it."},{"start":73.78,"end":74.09,"text":"I got it."},{"start":74.19,"end":74.52,"text":"I got it."},{"start":74.53,"end":76.66,"text":"I got it."},{"start":76.88,"end":77.26,"text":"I got it."},{"start":77.28,"end":77.52,"text":"I got it."},{"start":77.56,"end":78.06,"text":"I got it."},{"start":78.08,"end":78.42,"text":"I got it."},{"start":78.7,"end":79.1,"text":"I got it."},{"start":93.56,"end":95.48,"text":"uh... uh..."},{"start":128.79,"end":131.92,"text":"Then the king came back with an invitation for him."},{"start":153.99,"end":164.4,"text":"Well, he just, he didn't want to, you know, also he wanted to talk to anyone over there."},{"start":166.86,"end":181.24,"text":"I bet you want to know that Tax Driver, an old friend of ours, Joseph Levine, who wrote us all the time, Tax Driver, and several other people that I don't know at all, have all called saying that, you know, these are the Jews."},{"start":182,"end":184.58,"text":"have been screaming about the filthy shoes and the handcuffs."},{"start":185.3,"end":188.89,"text":"Handcuffs don't even really mean, some of them act the second thing."},{"start":188.91,"end":191.93,"text":"But don't, you know, don't pay attention to what's going on."},{"start":194.29,"end":194.95,"text":"Oh, pass them."},{"start":195.03,"end":198.59,"text":"But he meant that Max Fisher's doing the acceptable to himself."},{"start":200.52,"end":202.02,"text":"Well, Brian, I'm going to send a letter."},{"start":202.88,"end":207.92,"text":"That editor, that paper, remember where they, that fellow that we got quite a few letters, but he doesn't"},{"start":217.98,"end":229.9,"text":"And for the last couple of years, we've allowed the NAM to put a little presidential seal on the bracelets they give, the charm bracelets that they give the outbound president's wife."},{"start":233.47,"end":243.69,"text":"And that's literally serving a dedication where these people are going to give you a set of six of these plates for the library."},{"start":244.01,"end":246.37,"text":"And then if we wanted this mural to be"},{"start":249.31,"end":250.87,"text":"We wanted to buy something at $525,000."},{"start":251.71,"end":260.11,"text":"They would sell it to us at half price if we wanted it for special."},{"start":260.17,"end":264.07,"text":"I didn't know any of you were going to use this."},{"start":264.19,"end":265.01,"text":"How much are these?"},{"start":265.13,"end":268.65,"text":"A set of pictures would normally cost $525."},{"start":268.71,"end":275.48,"text":"They would sell them to you for half price."},{"start":275.5,"end":278.16,"text":"She didn't know if you'd be able to get special for some people."},{"start":278.22,"end":279.08,"text":"Well, I would."},{"start":281.27,"end":286.53,"text":"Remember I told you we've got to have some people who are here who are staying gifts."},{"start":287.27,"end":288.95,"text":"Just have on hand, wouldn't that be nice?"},{"start":288.97,"end":293.51,"text":"I don't know the other part about them because, you know, she's a good girl."},{"start":293.97,"end":294.85,"text":"Just order some."},{"start":294.89,"end":296.35,"text":"That would be excellent."},{"start":296.37,"end":296.71,"text":"Have protocol."},{"start":296.75,"end":297.25,"text":"Buy some."},{"start":297.95,"end":300.39,"text":"At least might have a few on hand, too."},{"start":300.49,"end":304.93,"text":"I wouldn't give them, but you'd have to give a set."},{"start":305.15,"end":306.39,"text":"And they're numbered."},{"start":306.51,"end":307.91,"text":"I just have an excellent idea."},{"start":316.05,"end":319.89,"text":"We might have somebody that's very important to us."},{"start":320.05,"end":320.41,"text":"That's right."},{"start":356.64,"end":357.02,"text":"BELL RINGS"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Rose Mary Woods and Manolo Sanchez to discuss various administrative, diplomatic, and personal matters, including the handling of official gifts and correspondence. They reviewed potential diplomatic outreach to King Faisal of Saudi Arabia regarding oil interests and addressed political concerns from American Jewish leaders concerning Soviet emigration. 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