Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 797-033
Date: Friday, October 13, 1972 at 6:15 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/797-033

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[0:00] I just didn't understand, so I better send it in, or else.
[0:36] They've been involved with that.
[0:37] I'll tell you what you could do.
[0:42] If you want to do anything, you can have the college offer any services.
[0:46] Not even bullshit.
[0:47] They've got a doctorate.
[0:48] Not from that son of a bitch who's running that kind of campaign.
[0:51] I think people would say, well, I think that's completely, there's a matter of fact, there's a matter of fact, you're going to have a hell of a time for the election.
[1:01] I said, see, that's gone beyond the panel.
[1:02] This is the very last campaign against the president.
[1:07] I think you've got to be magnanimous in victory.
[1:10] That's right.
[1:11] It's always important.
[1:12] We always are.
[1:13] If that isn't, if that's too bad, there's a rush of inviting him over to dinner.
[1:18] Oh, that would be crap.
[1:19] I wouldn't let him near this house.
[1:20] I would never invite him in here again.
[1:22] Perhaps.
[1:22] I would not.
[1:23] Ever.
[1:24] Well, look, look, look, Eisenhower, even when Truman was not running against him, he never let Truman in my house when he was president.
[1:31] Eisenhower never let the son of a bitch in my house.
[1:36] one little old thing, and I was like, how are you talking?
[1:40] He was pretty.
[1:41] And I got started, and he never invited me to the White House for eight years.
[2:10] This guy is just awful.
[2:51] Well, let me tell you this.
[2:53] He's done a lot of deception.
[2:56] Like I said, that goddamn herb capital.
[2:59] You know, I did that for him.
[3:01] You know, Klein insisted, Ziegler insisted, and so as he does, he's a vicious son of a bitch because he's a left-winger.
[3:09] Now, the hell with herb capital.
[3:11] You know, I feel that way about the rest of my life now.
[3:23] He said, you've done things wrong and all that, but he never took you on.
[3:28] That's the kind of basis the government has.
[3:31] I don't, I think it dishonored you.
[3:32] It's crud.
[3:33] It's crud to call that guy in.
[3:36] They're out.
[3:37] It's deceitful.
[3:39] You can't hit them.
[3:40] No, sir.
[3:40] No, sir.
[3:41] No, sir.
[3:42] They're crazy.
[3:43] They're out of their minds.
[3:44] Plus, he's an ACAC.
[3:45] What's that word?
[3:45] Something happened to him.
[3:49] But we don't know that guy.
[4:25] She's always taught her husband what to do, and advising, and so forth.
[4:28] She probably was very sensitive about the fact that he did not teach, and she probably advised, blah.
[4:34] All right, these sorts of things can be terrible.
[4:37] They give you pain, and it's not who they would.
[4:39] If I didn't have this contempt for the guy that I've got, I'd feel sorry for him, too.
[4:56] That's the reason the press is so—the only reason I'm more—I could burn the press because of the double standard.
[5:03] I don't mind the attack.
[5:04] Yeah, the double standard that we want.
[5:07] We know them on the attacks affair.
[5:10] If they have to do with stuff that was wrong, that's their job.
[5:14] But goddammit, they never take on the other side, you know, for what they did on this sort of stuff this year.
[5:26] violence, rallies, all that sort of thing.
[5:31] If someone did that bad, I think it's worse than cranking up tickets.
[5:38] Of course, I just want to talk about duty.
[5:41] If I take some bastards and hire them as agents and order orders and all that sort of thing,
[5:56] that's done to people who are, yeah, I'm surprised with your letters.
[6:07] Letters and obviously firing around, that's been all.
[6:35] They are in one hell of a shitty democratic establishment.
[6:39] That's all they know what the hell to do.
[6:43] They agree.
[6:43] They know they've got a damn loser on their hands.
[6:48] It's interesting.
[6:51] Yep.
[6:51] Getting back to Vietnam.
[7:08] I wish his name as far as I know.
[7:10] You got a problem with that?
[7:12] I do, but I've got another problem with it.
[7:14] The problem is we're going to have a war after this.
[7:17] Well, if you've got a chance to settle, that's the point.
[7:19] It sure is worth it.
[7:20] You're better off to get it over with than not getting it over with.
[7:26] It isn't going to hurt me much.
[7:29] You mean two blows?
[7:32] Oh, two blows.
[7:33] Oh, that's what I was going to say.
[7:35] If he blows low, that's it.
[7:38] That's right.
[7:43] He comes out on taxes for trying to sell the mountain.
[7:46] How can you do that?
[7:49] Because he knows you're going to be here.
[7:51] He knows he can't lose the election for you.
[7:53] And he knows if he does, he's worse off than he was.
[7:56] That's the whole difference.
[7:59] When he screwed Johnson, he knew he had you as the alternative.
[8:01] He screwed you, but he's got you.
[8:07] No matter how bad you get, you can't be as bad as the other.
[8:10] Not quite.
[8:12] No, that's the whole point.