Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 799-010 Date: Monday, October 16, 1972 at 10:13 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Kissinger, Henry A. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/799-010 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] Well, I think maybe I'd better do it, but I think you'd better do it with the one that's going to be asshole. [0:06] It's not going to be us, you know. [0:09] I mean, let me tell you the problem. [0:11] You've got the problem. [0:13] You've got the problem. [0:14] You've got the problem. [0:15] You've got the problem. [0:16] You've got the problem. [0:20] I have a few jackasses, you know, that are going to be negative. [0:29] It doesn't make any difference. [0:30] If I do, that'll be the news. [0:31] That's right. [0:32] You boys haven't thought of that, have you? [0:34] Yes, we have. [0:36] That was just the point I made, that you may have some negative on that. [0:41] You never know. [0:42] It's a problem. [0:43] The groove is totally what it is, but individually... [0:48] Okay. [0:48] They'll leave one... [0:50] They'll take you. [0:51] They want you. [0:52] It's a time right now when they can do it in the presidential ballroom. [0:56] I think you ought to do it. [0:57] Me? [0:58] Henry. [0:59] Well, unless you can be ready and go right over and do it. [1:03] See, they've pulled it together with Henry now. [1:06] But he's not. [1:07] Yeah. [1:07] Yeah, but I think it'll be... You can run a substitute if you do it now. [1:10] Or, you know, within the time frame. [1:13] We'll let you know. [1:16] Well. [1:16] Yeah, I'll... [1:20] Well I think that [1:52] The disadvantage of not doing it is that I might feel that it's a political move. [1:58] But I'll do it. [1:59] I'll... [1:59] This isn't a political thing. [2:04] You bet I'm going to move forward. [2:14] The way I... [2:15] Wait a second. [2:17] The way I would do it when Henry was trying to get in my way... [2:21] They were going to say I left, and on several occasions that way you get the politics of this is not just the election year. [2:28] And I told your board in the spring I was looking forward to meeting with the group when you left this fall. [2:32] Which is true. [2:34] What is the situation? [2:35] Who has checked to see what the situation is? [2:38] We haven't got views anymore. [2:41] Who spoke up? [2:43] Who? [2:43] Who spoke up? [2:46] I think you'll probably get a hell of a reception. [2:47] For most. [2:48] That's true. [2:49] That's right. [2:58] You go ahead. [3:00] I'll wait. [3:01] No, you don't need to wait. [3:03] You go ahead and concentrate. [3:04] I feel like you're doing the right thing. [3:06] Now, let me just say one other thing. [3:11] There'll be other things that are going to develop in the campaign. [3:13] Please don't do that. [3:15] It's not a smart thing. [3:17] I know you want to knock this story out. [3:19] It's a good idea to knock the story out. [3:21] But you mustn't use the big gun, right, to try to piss on some story that's coming out of the ground. [3:28] It just isn't worth it, Bob, right? [3:29] It isn't worth it. [3:34] Incidentally, it's fine with the radio on Thursday. [3:37] I don't tell if you don't have a crisis, somebody told you about the fact, well, salt is the story. [3:42] The next radio is no story. [3:43] Do you comprehend what I'm saying? [3:46] You know, it's the asshole one, you know? [3:49] paternalism and the rest of their energy. [3:51] And that's great. [3:52] So I think it's a good time to run that. [3:54] Don't you agree? [3:55] You have to argue that Wednesday you don't have a soul. [3:59] You don't have any. [4:01] You don't have my memory, but I don't think I have [4:05] The problem, my God, is that I can't. [4:07] I don't know about spending. [4:08] I just don't want to spend two days and can't dig it. [4:10] And I want to go. [4:11] You see what I mean? [4:12] Yeah. [4:13] Let's just do it Wednesday. [4:14] On my way. [4:15] I like that. [4:15] I think that's fine. [4:16] I mean, just do it Thursday. [4:17] And Wednesday, we don't have a story. [4:19] Right. [4:19] We don't have to have a story every day. [4:21] Right. [4:22] I agree. [4:22] You know. [4:24] My God, maybe they didn't figure something else out here. [4:27] I suppose. [4:27] I don't know. [4:31] But anyway, I'm going to do it Thursday. [4:32] That's my decision. [4:41] And you're definitely going to go on everything, right?