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Conversation 801-010

TapeTape 801StartTuesday, October 17, 1972 at 11:22 AMEndTuesday, October 17, 1972 at 11:24 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.;  Nixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s upcoming schedule, specifically focusing on potential meetings with the National Federation of Business and Professional Women’s Clubs and former NFL star Gale Sayers. Bull provided updates on Robert J. Brown’s efforts to secure Sayers's public endorsement, noting his perceived value as a representative with broad appeal. The President expressed reservations about pressuring Sayers, ultimately deciding to adopt a hands-off approach while awaiting further word on the athlete's intentions.

Presidential schedulingGale SayersPolitical endorsementsRobert J. BrownNational Federation of Business and Professional Women’s Clubs
AudioNARA Description

On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:22 am and 11:24 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 801-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 801-10

Date: October 17, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:22 am and 11:24 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

        The President's schedule

                                        (rev. Nov-03)

             -Forthcoming meeting with representatives of the National Federation of Business
              and Professional Women’s Clubs
                  -Rose Mary Woods
             -Possible meeting with Gale E. Sayers
                  -Robert J. Brown’s meeting with Sayers
                  -Sayers's possible support for the President
                  -The President’s view
                      The President’s previous conversation with Sayers

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:24 am.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Mr. President, right now, Bob Brown is trying to get down centers and try to get a third committee from centers.
He was scheduled once before to come in.
Well, I talked to him in there, and I feel that I really have.
But I think in terms of if he wants to do it, he would go across the street and announce publicly for you.
If you don't wish to do that, I just want to push it to the best of my ability.
I think he's good for this meeting.
I just leave him alone.
I chat with him a little bit there.
I just leave him alone.
I just feel a little uncomfortable about trying to push him.
Well, he's not being pushed.
I'm just saying.
Brown doesn't give him a way back.
The advantage to Gail Sears is that, obviously, not just a black representative, but he has a rapport.
I can use that to serve quite a few people across the board.
Well, there's a lot of browns to bring him in.
Well, we'll have a reading in a few minutes what Sayers wants to do.
Sayers, don't question it.
He's not making any answers.
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