{"conversationCode":"801-018","tapeNumber":801,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-801-018","startDateTime":"1972-10-17T16:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-17T16:24:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Oct-1972","startTime":"12:22 PM","endDate":"17-Oct-1972","endTime":"12:24 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:22 pm and 12:24 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 801-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 801-18\n\nDate: October 17, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:22 pm and 12:24 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n         The President’s schedule\n             -Forthcoming meeting with Dr. William O. Chase and Dr. Carl Laughlin\n                 -Possible press photograph\n                      -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:24 pm.","filename":["801-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"801-017","nextCode":"801-019","transcript":[{"start":2.89,"end":8.21,"text":"No, I wouldn't bother."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide Stephen B. Bull regarding the scheduling of an upcoming meeting with Dr. William O. Chase and Dr. Carl Laughlin. They discussed whether a press photograph should be taken during the session and considered the availability of White House photographer Oliver F. Atkins. The brief exchange focused primarily on logistical arrangements for the President's public image and daily calendar.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Press relations","Photography","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:04:39.926Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","press-relations","photography","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"801-018.mp3","bytes":394343,"durationSec":16.36,"bitrate":192832,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/801-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/801-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/801/conversation-801-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}