{"conversationCode":"802-004","tapeNumber":802,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-802-004","startDateTime":"1972-10-17T22:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-17T22:28:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Oct-1972","startTime":"6:24 PM","endDate":"17-Oct-1972","endTime":"6:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On October 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:24 pm and 6:28 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 802-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 802-4\n\nDate: October 17, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 6:24 pm and 6:28 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n        The President’s schedule\n            -Pegge (Jendro) Begich\n            -Corrine (Claiborne) (“Lindy”) Boggs\n\nThe President talked with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon between 6:26 pm and 6:27 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 802-4A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-106; one item has been withdrawn]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n        The President’s schedule\n            -Begich’s schedule\n            -Boggs’s schedule\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 6:28 pm.","filename":["802-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"802-003","nextCode":"802-005","transcript":[{"start":7.88,"end":8.46,"text":"This is very nice."},{"start":40.63,"end":44.84,"text":"Thank you for watching!"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull in the Oval Office to review and coordinate upcoming scheduling matters regarding Pegge Begich and Lindy Boggs. During the brief session, the President also held a short telephone conversation with First Lady Pat Nixon. The discussion served primarily as an administrative update to finalize the President's immediate agenda.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Stephen B. Bull","Pat Nixon","White House administration","Pegge Begich","Lindy Boggs"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:05:36.706Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","stephen-b-bull","pat-nixon","white-house-administration","pegge-begich","lindy-boggs"],"audioDurationSec":58,"audioFiles":[{"file":"802-004.mp3","bytes":1402461,"durationSec":58.36,"bitrate":192249,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/802-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/802-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/802/conversation-802-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}