{"conversationCode":"803-012","tapeNumber":803,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-803-012","startDateTime":"1972-10-18T16:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-18T16:09:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Oct-1972","startTime":"12:04 PM","endDate":"18-Oct-1972","endTime":"12:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scott, Hugh;","description":"On October 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:04 pm to 12:09 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 803-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 803-12\n\nDate: October 18, 1972\nTime: 12:04 pm - 12:09 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Hugh Scott.\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-118; two items have been withdrawn]","filename":["803-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Scott, Hugh"],"prevCode":"803-011","nextCode":"803-013","transcript":[{"start":9.97,"end":14.85,"text":"Well, I wanted to say that I'm most grateful for your speaking on the water."},{"start":14.91,"end":18.09,"text":"We'd like to know that you didn't have many supporters, but that was it."},{"start":18.75,"end":19.74,"text":"It looked good historically."},{"start":19.76,"end":20.68,"text":"I can assure you."},{"start":21.42,"end":23.34,"text":"I wish you well on your trip."},{"start":23.36,"end":27.28,"text":"I pray you're not going to be without your Friday members."},{"start":29,"end":30,"text":"It's a good idea."},{"start":30.04,"end":35.45,"text":"It's all right, because basically it's just as well to let that be a show for governors and mayors, don't you think?"},{"start":36.65,"end":36.79,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":36.81,"end":36.89,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":38.17,"end":38.39,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":41.03,"end":41.29,"text":"Good."},{"start":45.21,"end":46.19,"text":"Right."},{"start":46.21,"end":47.75,"text":"Well, you and Marianne have a good time."},{"start":47.77,"end":54.2,"text":"And after the convention, I mean, I'm sorry, the election will take off in three months, fair enough."},{"start":54.98,"end":55.31,"text":"That's an order."},{"start":55.34,"end":55.66,"text":"Marvelous."},{"start":59.66,"end":60.24,"text":"Marvelous."},{"start":62.28,"end":62.96,"text":"She's been there before?"},{"start":62.98,"end":64.96,"text":"Oh, of course she's been there."},{"start":64.98,"end":65.14,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":66.46,"end":67.74,"text":"When did we find her?"},{"start":85.83,"end":86.35,"text":"Do you understand?"},{"start":86.63,"end":87.93,"text":"I have to pay to other customers."},{"start":88.25,"end":91.81,"text":"I've got to live that $24 billion now on Instagram."},{"start":92.37,"end":92.95,"text":"We'll find a way."},{"start":92.97,"end":93.52,"text":"We'll find a way."},{"start":94.78,"end":95.32,"text":"That's right."},{"start":95.42,"end":97.22,"text":"Sometimes you've got to think of how you're going to look like."},{"start":98.44,"end":98.88,"text":"All right."},{"start":98.9,"end":99.12,"text":"Goodbye."},{"start":99.4,"end":99.8,"text":"Goodbye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott to discuss recent political matters and express gratitude for Scott's support on specific legislative or public policy issues. The discussion touched upon the strategic optics of political appearances, involving governors and mayors, as well as the upcoming post-election transition. Additionally, the two briefly addressed budgetary concerns and the necessity of managing the administration's fiscal image moving forward.","topics":["Senate leadership","Political strategy","Public relations","1972 election","Fiscal policy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:07:20.491Z"},"topicSlugs":["senate-leadership","political-strategy","public-relations","1972-election","fiscal-policy"],"audioDurationSec":103,"audioFiles":[{"file":"803-012.mp3","bytes":2481422,"durationSec":103.32,"bitrate":192134,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:36.258Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/803-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/803-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/803/conversation-803-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}