{"conversationCode":"805-009","tapeNumber":805,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-805-009","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T15:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T15:30:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"11:20 AM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"11:30 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:20 am and 11:30 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 805-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 805-9\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:20 am and 11:30 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Gifts\n                -Thomas W. (“Teddy”) Gleason\n                     -Cuff links\n                -Ashtrays\n                     -Costs\n                -Cuff links\n                     -Paul Hall\n                     -Paul Richardson\n                          -Sea-Land Service, Inc.\n            -New organization\n                -Gleason, Richardson\n                -Hall\n                -Andrew E. Gibson\n            -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:30 am.","filename":["805-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"805-008","nextCode":"805-010","transcript":[{"start":17.07,"end":21.21,"text":"That's fine, and I can come up next to, who's the other one, Paul?"},{"start":21.91,"end":24.87,"text":"Paul, Paul, he's got the name of Richardson."},{"start":24.89,"end":26.35,"text":"He's with Paul."},{"start":26.71,"end":27.89,"text":"Yes, he's from the industry."},{"start":27.91,"end":31.34,"text":"He's from the industry side."},{"start":31.52,"end":36.34,"text":"He's from Sealand Incorporated, most of the industry group."},{"start":36.44,"end":41.02,"text":"Paul Gleason and this man Richardson are co-chairmen."},{"start":41.78,"end":44.72,"text":"And then Paul will be the chairman of this organization, they're going to announce."},{"start":45.41,"end":45.8,"text":"And Andy."},{"start":46.36,"end":46.72,"text":"Oh, I see."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate the distribution of gifts, specifically cuff links and ashtrays, to prominent maritime industry leaders. The discussion focused on upcoming arrangements involving Thomas W. Gleason, Paul Hall, Paul Richardson of Sea-Land Service, and Andrew E. Gibson. The two finalized administrative details regarding the launch of a new industry organization and the President's related scheduling requirements.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Gift distribution","Maritime industry","Sea-Land Service","Labor relations","Executive administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:09:33.411Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","gift-distribution","maritime-industry","sea-land-service","labor-relations","executive-administration"],"audioDurationSec":69,"audioFiles":[{"file":"805-009.mp3","bytes":1659506,"durationSec":69.08,"bitrate":192183,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/805-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/805-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/805/conversation-805-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}