{"conversationCode":"805-013","tapeNumber":805,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-805-013","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T16:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T16:07:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"12:03 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"12:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 12:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 805-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 805-13\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:03 pm and 12:07 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 31-140]","filename":["805-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"805-012","nextCode":"805-014","transcript":[{"start":5.48,"end":5.98,"text":"Secretary of the Navy."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to facilitate a connection with the Secretary of the Navy. The interaction served as a brief administrative bridge to initiate formal communication with a high-ranking cabinet official. No substantial policy discussions occurred during this brief exchange.","topics":["White House administration","Secretary of the Navy","Communication protocols","Executive operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:09:56.085Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","secretary-of-the-navy","communication-protocols","executive-operations"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"805-013.mp3","bytes":266448,"durationSec":11.04,"bitrate":193078,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/805-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/805-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/805/conversation-805-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}