Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 807 › Conversation 807-003

Nixon, Goode & Blount on Campaign Film and Veto Message

Thursday, October 26, 1972 · 9:05 AM–9:16 AM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Goode, Mark I.; Blount, Winton M. ("Red"), Jr.; Timmons, William E.; Roland, Fritz; White House photographer; Boggs, J. CalebConversation807-003 on Tape 807StartThursday, October 26, 1972 at 9:05 AMEndThursday, October 26, 1972 at 9:16 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 807-003 ↗

President Nixon met with Mark Goode, William Timmons, and senatorial candidates Winton Blount and J. Caleb Boggs to coordinate arrangements for a campaign film session. Following the candidates' departure, the discussion shifted toward the recording of a veto message regarding House Resolution 1. The President consulted with his staff on the messaging strategy and requested a follow-up telephone call to John D. Ehrlichman to finalize the legislative approach.

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Good morning, Mr. President.
We'll just have him come in through the door, and then we'll just walk around and see if we have any threats or anything.
Mr. President, while you're talking, we're going to go to the door and walk through the door.
I'll go to the door, Mr. President.
I'll go to the door, Mr. President.
Raise the water.
Raise the water.
Raise the water.
Raise the water.
Raise the water.
You know, I'm just, I'm bouncing.
I'm bouncing.
I don't grow up like this.
I didn't know how to do it.
That's just the way it is.
Like I said, it's just the way it is.
I don't know how to do it.
It's just the way it is.
I don't know how to do it.
I don't know how to do it.
All right, we'll get it.
We've, uh, I think changed our mind on this.
See if he wants to still do it.
If you call her in his office and say this is a U.S. conversation.
Yeah, what I meant is that there's one bill that we haven't taken out and it's for further consideration.
Yeah, I'm good.
Okay, fine, the message sounds all right to me, but be sure, time, to send you the conversation, but be sure to know that the message still walks out.
Okay, all right, fine.
Okay, all right, good job, thank you.

On October 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Mark I. Goode, Winton M. ("Red") Blount, Jr., William E. Timmons, Fritz Roland, White House photographer, and J. Caleb Boggs met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:05 am to 9:16 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 807-003 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 807-3

Date: October 26, 1972
Time: 9:05 am - 9:16 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Mark I. Goode.

        Forthcoming film session with Senatorial candidates Winston M. (“Red”) Blount and J.
        Caleb Boggs
            -Arrangements

Blount and William E. Timmons entered at 9:06 am. Fritz Roland and the White House
photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 30s ]

BLOUNT LEFT AT 9:10 AM.

BOGGS ENTERED AT 9:11 AM.

BOGGS AND TIMMONS LEFT AT 9:14 AM.

STEPHEN B. BULL ENTERED AT 9:14 AM.

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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        Veto message
            -Recording
                -House Resolution [HR] 1
            -The President’s prior conversation with John D. Ehrlichman
                -Request for a telephone call to Ehrlichman

Bull and Goode left at 9:16 am.
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Conversation 807-003, October 26, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/807-003 (accessed October 9, 2026).