Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 808-007
Date: Friday, October 27, 1972 at 11:42 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Committee on the Health Services Industry; Dunn, Barbara; McMahon, J. Alexander; Tibbitts, Samuel J.; Haviland, James W.; Stein, Herbert; Rumsfeld, Donald H.; Cavanaugh, James H.; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/808-007

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[0:06] Thank you.
[0:40] uh i wanted to have this opportunity to uh
[1:18] Thank you.
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[3:09] um um
[3:47] Thank you.
[4:09] Thank you.
[4:45] basically the availability of so-called free or whatever you want to call it, health care for all, which is the medical profession, the hospitals, et cetera, and so on.
[4:57] And on that score, I think we've got a very difficult problem.
[5:00] In fact, I'm one of those former colleagues in the Congress who have a very good problem.
[5:51] Thank you.
[6:14] I know it's worked.
[6:15] I know it's worked.
[6:15] It's over control.
[6:16] The thing that concerns me is that you can't get to the quality level.
[6:18] You can't cycle that.
[6:18] I mean, I've only heard about it in regulation before.
[6:24] I've never heard about it in practice.
[6:26] I've never heard about it.
[6:29] I've never heard about it.
[6:33] I've never heard about it.
[6:34] I've never heard about it.
[6:36] I've never heard about it.
[6:46] Thank you.
[7:10] Thank you.
[8:06] Thank you.
[8:25] Thank you.
[8:42] And we've made no attempt to deal with equality because to deal with it could be if we weren't properly, if we weren't moving properly, could impair the equality that you're talking about.
[8:51] And what we have to do is to go one step further because I think there may be some bad news on the horizon in terms of the cost if people continue to money the distinction.
[9:05] prices and costs because the costs are continuing to go up because we're continuing to find new ways to get people well quicker or return them to work so they can be back as productive members of society.
[9:16] What we've been talking about this morning is in the long haul, both for economic stabilization and for your health strategy, that we're probably going to have to figure out some ways to deal with the cost problems to make sure that we don't have excessive costs and the duplication of services
[9:38] Thank you.
[10:06] We're beginning to worry about it because the progress on prices says to us that we've met the goal there.
[10:12] But there's some other things that lie over the next hill that we've got to be, that we must work on it.
[10:17] We're going to keep this system voluntary so that we'll be the matter for the world for their health problems as well as for our own citizens.
[10:25] That's the best one.
[10:35] Thank you.
[11:34] I think we're going to have to develop some device to deal with that proliferation of unnecessary services, the duplication of activity that I don't think we can afford because if we get a tax on the voluntary health system,
[12:27] We think there may very well be the necessity of some kind of long-term mechanism.
[12:31] Excuse me, and I want to hear from John.
[12:34] You remember when we had this meeting the other day, we were talking about this view of the law.
[12:42] Now, when this is close to the medical scene, it seems clear that this could become a very...
[12:58] here and determine whether the doctors in the hospital are providing excessive services in particular cases.
[13:07] I'm sorry, but I put this in perspective.
[13:08] I think we're talking about an emergency.
[13:10] Alex McMahon's point, as I understand it, is that we're getting present in the control system.
[13:15] His point is that as long as government is spending more and more money
[13:26] Thank you.
[13:53] that will encourage the conference, because of the weeks, to go the extra step, straighter, than every weekday over the meds.
[14:02] That's a very good result here.
[14:03] What you're really doing is putting the defense in game.
[14:08] Absolutely.
[14:08] That's what I always say.
[14:09] In fact, my part, the very positive part of it is to make sure that the dollars that go into the health system are returned in terms of appropriate health care that the patients need to serve.
[14:51] So we should probably look to that.
[15:22] Thank you.
[16:17] Okay.
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[19:55] Thank you very much for your time.
[20:25] Thank you.
[20:49] We don't need to listen to my radio.
[20:54] We're talking to the farmers.