Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 808-008 Date: Friday, October 27, 1972 at 12:59 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Roberts, Gilroy; Conger, Clement C.; [Unknown person(s)]; White House operator; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Butz, Earl L.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Ehrlichman, John D. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/808-008 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:10] How are you? [0:10] How are you? [0:11] Nice to see you. [0:12] Nice to see you. [0:16] All right. [0:17] I appreciate your taking the time. [0:20] You've got a picture? [0:21] This is really wonderful. [0:22] That's all right. [0:23] I was going to ask for a road map. [0:32] There is a box. [3:42] Oh, I see. [3:44] That's where you work. [3:47] I'll just leave it to you. [4:17] I don't want to give people lessons. [4:20] They'll build up, they'll build up, they'll build up. [4:46] Well, if you could take the taper and ship it around, I guess they will do that at all their local stations. [4:51] They can have reruns and so forth, because that's what we did it for, you see. [4:59] And then, again, be sure you hit the condition of all those stations. [5:22] Thank you. [6:22] I know what they've got now. [10:37] Okay, let's go. [11:06] Thank you. [11:11] Yes. [11:42] Mr. President, are you aware that Senator Dole will be coming in for five minutes and three. [11:49] He'll be appearing on Face the Nation this Sunday, a special next Tuesday, and then again on television, I don't know, Meet the Press and Fox. [12:00] Chuck's just been running in for a minute before your meeting. [12:03] He's been pumping it. [12:03] He's got all of it. [12:04] Dole just said that you're going to have to see the president in five minutes. [12:07] Yes, you can. [12:08] Just before the surrogate. [12:09] He wants to do it all over again. [12:22] He has a chapter that says, no, it's just been a great curve. [12:25] He's really gotten into gear since last week. [13:04] One thing we probably need to do, right, is find a way to get notified of leaders. [13:10] And if we get any picks, then we've got to be damn sure to let that in on something ahead of time, or else there's nothing to notify us. [13:29] Well, that's it. [13:30] We would respond to another issue, which is the point that they've made. [13:38] Well, you know, there's nothing we need to do. [13:42] We need to have somebody just call them and say if we simply responded to what was already out. [13:48] That's it. [13:48] We've got to at least examine the table. [13:52] We need to find a point. [13:53] But it's one that, well, of course, whatever it is, it's a classic number. [13:59] Did you finish your reading? [14:24] I did, went alright, then off. [14:29] Nine vetoes. [14:31] I'd like to change the decision on these two older American stills now. [14:39] OK. Deto them. [14:40] Yeah. [14:40] All right. [14:41] Is that all right with you? [14:43] Yeah. [14:43] OK. Well, then, that dictates going with a partial list tomorrow and a partial list Monday, because I think we ought to go with them on the same day we go with HRY. [14:50] Sure. [14:51] So it doesn't flop around loose. [14:53] Oh, I'm fine. [14:54] I didn't take too bad of those. [14:57] That's right. [14:57] That's right. [14:58] Good. [14:59] So we'll pick up some money back here. [15:05] OK, great. [15:09] Well then, we'll hold up a call. [15:21] We'll really keep this story going three days in because we'll do some of these three in the morning before we leave. [15:27] All right. [15:28] And then the other remaining segment. [15:30] We had to announce that we signed some of these this morning because the time had passed. [15:38] So I just read off the list that you signed. [15:44] There were monuments, the expropriations. [15:48] But I think it'll be all right. [15:53] I told him that you were up all hours of the day, and I supported you. [16:00] What time is the, you've got a, you've got a drop in the state of Ohio. [16:06] We have two that will drop there. [16:10] Now, I just heard you say Michigan. [16:13] How about, what's something out there? [16:16] Well, I had a bus coming out there. [16:17] I think that's just been done. [16:20] We could do a, [16:21] We could do parochial aid up there. [16:25] We've got to check the body and see what it is. [16:27] Why don't you ask Bobby here? [16:29] Yeah, well, I'll check. [16:30] But if Michigan's on, why would we want to get on there? [16:33] You ask him. [16:34] I don't think we can get home. [16:35] We'll be there late, so it won't be local. [16:37] It won't get any national. [16:39] So really, Rob, this is what we want to do. [16:45] You can reiterate, actually. [16:46] He wants to reiterate the blessings. [16:50] Well, I'm not going to make it in my remarks, but you should reiterate the blessing, and parochialate it with a little grand thing, you know. [16:58] Might as well, but never mind that. [17:03] It never hurts to, if a father says what you're going to say to him, that's that. [17:07] The way it was stated is, if you drop it, the president will not say it. [17:13] Fair enough. [17:14] I'll do it tomorrow, Bob. [17:15] Get it done by me. [17:20] And we'll have two statements for Ohio. [17:21] You don't think that going there stirs up the animals in Michigan? [17:24] Three days earlier. [17:25] Well, what in the hell is this if they're gonna stir up the animals in Michigan? [17:34] The last week of it was one of the best in the operation. [17:43] Just do it. [17:44] Go out and make it to the base station. [17:46] You think that's it? [17:47] Mm-hm. [17:48] Chance to do it? [17:50] Fine. [18:04] I'm going to run this weekend, Sean, this weekend, just partly to get a reading on the war thing, so we know where we're going with Gallup and Harris. [18:17] And you wanted to get that answer on the settlement thing, so you've got to get a couple of Vietnam questions. [18:28] And the last reading, you might as well get it. [18:32] yeah you might get that just to see whether how much whether we have to improve the president's actions or disapprove so but don't we don't go into this a convoluted but it's like a teeter-totter you don't need to do that i just want to get a feel of what the public votes is on the you know right after the administration [19:05] I don't want him to see it. [19:07] Oh, no. [19:08] That's just a cover that he writes. [19:47] Okay.