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Oh, you, yes.

Yes.

Nobody claims for it.

And then the carpet people, well, the decision was right.

And if they were raised that way, and they'll say, I'll serve the mountain people.

What about that quarter of a million dollars that you got from the teacher, where do you register it?

And then you come on into this, the Watergate stuff and so forth.

And you come down to it the way that they have.

I've just used the Holland example.

They have three straight blocks.

I'm going to do a little bit, just say this administration is quaint.

It's an honest administration.

We've really smeared the last of the tactics and so forth.

But then I ask you to come on.

Very strongly is that you have called upon, and you again have called upon, Governor, to review the vile raffles that have demonstrated against the President, against his wife,

They did a $15,000 damage in San Francisco.

They burned down a $100,000 headquarters facility.

And that and all the bombings and the rest, they bombed.

They did an enormous damage to the Republican convention.

These are recovered people.

This isn't just tricks and trying to, you know, send a bitch to a raffle here, Simon.

But this is the business, isn't it?

These people, these things don't happen by accident.

Except for that my parents have got behind me.

I haven't been out once without having somebody trying to shut me down.

What the hell do they call this?

Are you kidding me?

I haven't given it a try so long.

Well, we're hitting it.

We're taking it.

The people that are in the press, they don't talk about that at all.

Why else did you not?

Why didn't you do it?

That's all we're asking.

That's all we're asking is something else.

You're able to deflect those facts.

You've been turning those questions back and forth.

And I know, too, that you just can't be government.

There really is a double standard that means you ought to use your distant time to present a simple standard.

But let's be honest here, you know, this would not be fine.

But if you're taking us on, we would buy it.

In our plan, are you going to have a single standard about the speech to suppress the groove of the attempts of the McGovern people to deny freedom of speech?

That's what that is, of course, my shut-in.

Even Independence Hall, when they signed the Revenue Shut-in, they were trying to deny freedom of speech from the President of the United States.

violent, very non-violent, violent, violent radicals.

I really cracked them.

I said, they are not his people.

Who the hells are they?

They're doing it too.

You know what I'm saying?

I think there's been more of it than I think in the last few days.

There's peace everywhere.

For the last gasp, I could almost see him yesterday.

He was in Wilmington running with us.

Yeah.

He had already stopped.

And they had almost shouted the same in North Carolina.

They did.

Now they're all blowing whistles.

You know, he blew a whistle on them.

Now they all have whistles.

So they're going, there was a whistle.

He sounded like a very big call.

Very big.

What do you do?

Well, they want to look at you.

And our campus is over on that campus now.

You've done that.

You know what I mean?

You've proved that we've tried to get them.

But you know, the peace thing, Rob, these guys are...

It's got to hit them.

When it does come, it will not come before the election.

It will come soon.

But when it does come, you realize what a terrible weapon I was going to be for these answers.

They're going to be charged off then.

What do you think?

They're going to have a terrible frustration in their face.

They'll be climbing the walls.

I think they'll do them right now.

I think that's what they're going to latch on to.

Yeah, because they're frustrated.

You haven't pulled the rug.

We're going to try to get the original government to do something.

I'm not certain they're going to do what we said in the telegraph yesterday.

This is a time of caution.

That was great.

Great.

It's a subtle line, which you might want to pick up, but it says for sure you're going to be doing it in that kind of way.

You can say he thinks that the president's conduct in this campaign has been above the approach, that he's talked about the issues, he's talked positively.

He hasn't said word one against his opponents.

that this is the time, the last few days of the campaign, that we've had our differences and the rest of them.

But now that's each of the candidates that are going to vote himself in the future, not in the past, with the hopes of this country, not his states.

And that's what the president's doing, and it shouldn't misbehave.

And then the old, to the American people, to know what he's for, not just what he's against.

You might think, well, that's not right to do that.

but I need you to get twice up the weed.

You can say, wait, sir, we haven't happened.

We haven't done a goddamn thing.

We haven't even happened yet.

I said, we haven't done anything.

They respected him and his right to free speech.

It was time for the McGovernites to respect the right of the president to free speech and the vice president to free speech.

I think a little of that.

And by the time he was in Hennington, he was in the back of the White House.

McGovern said something else.

Part of the aim is to grow it.

It's a growing up.

I hope you'll say something.

I'm attacking this thing.

That's good.

Then you can say that I can destroy it because that's just going too far.

What are you saying now?

Of course, we could have done it four years ago.

Oh, we could have done it four years ago when he advocated this.

giving that line that I was developing over there about the four points, not now, but later on, type that out, you know, where I said, where the difference is between, I mean, we provide for free in South Vietnam, and we provide for help in South Vietnam, and it takes the way we provide for the air, and the air, and the air, and the air, and the air, and the air, and the air, and the air,

It's very short, very tough.

And that's what we do.

So if you come right down to it, it's really quite true.

We provide for a non-communist for South Vietnam in the future.

We would oppose the communist government.

And we provide for re-elections and so forth.

But then the most important thing is we get back.

what he would have advocated four years ago, just get out and let the communists take over.

My governor was for surrender, and we are for honor.

And he was for a communist takeover, and we are for a non-communist.

My governor's policy would have led to a communist Vietnam.

Ours is leading to a non-communist Vietnam.

That's the code word.

And as far as some of these guys have been voting for on this end of the war, that's what I have heard.

Actually, Mr. President, if the people go into the voting booth on Election Day, and that's the choice before them, the POWs, the free election, the non-communist government, no massacre against McGovern, if those are the two choices, that is just a huge landslide, because if that

is now brought into sharper focus than ever by what the president has accomplished in the negotiations.

And we've just laid those points before, and no question which of them is it.

Plus, even the reaction of all these others, the lawyers on TV last night, this morning.

I said that to the president.

Oh, but now you're going to deal with the lawyers that you've worked with so long now.

But it really is open.

We're going to get them.

I can assure you right now, I'm not going to just set a date on the bed.

It will be done.

I'm curious.

They're going to get him back.

Thank God.

I don't know how many MIAs will ever be found.

One mother said this morning, as long as an actor cannot accept me, there's something in my head.

And there will be that.

So there, there was a one anti-comment.

It was marvelous.

It was very emotional, very moving.

And there'll be more of that.

Frank Stanton told me today that CBS is running a one-hour special Sunday night on this peace plan.

I think that's one of the... You've got to remember, Bob, that the press is, of course, terrified about this peace plan because they have all been for Montgomery's side.

too much i didn't know when it would come but i think we had a deal with the people that they might be caving on now my idea is that uh press cuts do everything they can and say well it should have come four years ago or it really means that the coalition government that's beautiful it doesn't

And also, they're terrified about that last November 7th issue.

The pressures on them and everybody else.

That's why we did not want public concern that the deal was on.

I would prefer, and I'm sure you would not, have to go in and bomb the smithereens after the election, would you?

Get the goddamn whore over there and get out.

And then the South Vietnamese have to handle it.

That's what we fought for.

They rallied for a long campaign.

Too long, too long.

The government was partying around for 10 years.

And all the rest of us were even going on for four years in Vietnam and these other regions.

Wow, Jesus.

was down there that wasn't totally.

And of course, the IED thing was a, if you look back, I wonder why we got so excited about it.

The United States, they had a state settlement.

It was not an IED's interest.

It was in the government's interest.

And all this crap about the settlement, actually, the only bad thing was that stupid, goddamn, watery thing.

But it was done by the application.

It was done by some very hard-nosed, rough-out guys who were charged with security with the best of intentions.

But it was a stupid, damn thing to do.

So here.

You've got to go to the Spanish service.

You've seen the government .

You know where they are.

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These are the fellows that are in the Spanish government.

I think they expected I don't know.