{"conversationCode":"808-011","tapeNumber":808,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-808-011","startDateTime":"1972-10-27T19:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-27T19:44:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Oct-1972","startTime":"3:43 PM","endDate":"27-Oct-1972","endTime":"3:44 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Phillip V.; Sanchez, Josefina; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Phillip V. Sanchez, Josefina Sanchez, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:43 pm to 3:44 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 808-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 808-11\n\nDate: October 27, 1972\nTime: 3:43 pm - 3:44 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Phillip V. Sanchez, Josefina (Tafoya) Sanchez, and the White House\nphotographer. This recording began at an unknown time while the conversation was in progress.\n\n         [Photograph session]\n\n         Josefina Sanchez\n             -Appearance\n                  -Comparison to [Mrs. Francisco M. Rebozo], mother of Charles G. (“Bebe”)\n\n                        Rebozo\n\n         Presentation of gifts by the President\n             -Pin\n                  -Presidential seal\n\n         Phillip Sanchez’s work\n\nPhillip Sanchez and Josefina Sanchez left and Stephen B. Bull entered at 3:44 pm.\n\n         The President’s schedule\n\nBull left at 3:44 pm.","filename":["808-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Phillip V.","Sanchez, Josefina","White House photographer","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"808-010","nextCode":"808-012","transcript":[{"start":0.76,"end":4.29,"text":"If you like it, if you don't, as long as you do, come over here."},{"start":10.37,"end":11.31,"text":"I'll tell you what she looks like."},{"start":11.38,"end":14.88,"text":"She looks like a mother of mine, a very good friend of her husband."},{"start":14.9,"end":16.78,"text":"Of course, I owe you her clothes."},{"start":16.8,"end":17.44,"text":"I gave you her clothes."},{"start":17.48,"end":21.27,"text":"I told his mother, first of all, she was 93."},{"start":21.37,"end":22.77,"text":"And that still goes on for vicious."},{"start":23.73,"end":23.95,"text":"Right."},{"start":24.09,"end":25.47,"text":"So that shows."},{"start":25.49,"end":28.03,"text":"All right, now the three of us."},{"start":28.11,"end":30.02,"text":"Oh, I already got it, Mr. President, but I'll take it again."},{"start":31.72,"end":33.69,"text":"All right, here we go."},{"start":34.39,"end":34.91,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":34.93,"end":37.11,"text":"Here's your presidential pin."},{"start":37.29,"end":39.69,"text":"Oh, thank you very much."},{"start":40.75,"end":43.4,"text":"We're proud of your boy."},{"start":43.53,"end":46.16,"text":"He has a marvelous young lady face."},{"start":46.26,"end":48.1,"text":"We appreciate it, too."},{"start":48.12,"end":48.42,"text":"Goodbye."},{"start":48.54,"end":49.76,"text":"Good luck."},{"start":50.28,"end":50.82,"text":"Wouldn't swear."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon hosted Phillip V. Sanchez and his wife, Josefina, in the Oval Office for a brief photo session and gift presentation. During the meeting, the President presented Josefina Sanchez with a presidential seal pin and praised the couple, specifically noting the administration's appreciation for Phillip Sanchez’s work. The encounter concluded with a short interaction regarding the President's schedule with Stephen B. Bull.","topics":["Phillip V. Sanchez","Oval Office photo session","Presidential gifts","White House schedule","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:13:39.581Z"},"topicSlugs":["phillip-v-sanchez","oval-office-photo-session","presidential-gifts","white-house-scheduling","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":65,"audioFiles":[{"file":"808-011.mp3","bytes":1549791,"durationSec":64.51,"bitrate":192202,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:37.165Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/808-011.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/808-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/808/conversation-808-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}