{"conversationCode":"810-008","tapeNumber":810,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-810-008","startDateTime":"1972-10-31T16:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-31T16:54:00.000Z","startDate":"31-Oct-1972","startTime":"11:53 AM","endDate":"31-Oct-1972","endTime":"11:54 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:53 am and 11:54 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 810-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 810-8\n\nDate: October 31, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:53 am and 11:54 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n         Ronald L. Ziegler’s briefing\n            -The President’s forthcoming trip\n\n         The President’s schedule\n\nThe President and Bull left at an unknown time before 11:54 am.","filename":["810-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"810-007","nextCode":"810-009","transcript":[{"start":2.09,"end":9.2,"text":"briefing the law on the trip this weekend, and that's what we did."},{"start":9.3,"end":11.88,"text":"Okay, we'll look at that."},{"start":11.96,"end":16.87,"text":"And that, of course, goes out of our power here."},{"start":16.89,"end":18.89,"text":"2.33 o'clock, 93, our 730 meetings."},{"start":31.62,"end":32.05,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to briefly review administrative details regarding an upcoming presidential trip and finalize the associated scheduling. The discussion focused on coordinating Ronald L. Ziegler’s press briefings to ensure the official messaging aligned with the travel itinerary. No major policy decisions were made, as the conversation served primarily to manage logistical arrangements and staff preparations.","topics":["Presidential travel","Scheduling","Ronald L. Ziegler","White House logistics","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:15:15.796Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-travel","scheduling","ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-logistics","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":37,"audioFiles":[{"file":"810-008.mp3","bytes":895267,"durationSec":37.23,"bitrate":192392,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/810-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/810-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/810/conversation-810-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}