{"conversationCode":"812-005","tapeNumber":812,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-812-005","startDateTime":"1972-11-03T15:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-03T15:41:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:37 AM","endDate":"3-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:41 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:37 am and 10:41 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 812-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 812-5\n\nDate: November 3, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:37 am and 10:41 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s telephone calls\n            -Carl T. Curtis\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       1972 campaign\n            -Speech\n                 -Recording\n                 -Arrangements\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Helicopter\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:41 am.","filename":["812-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"812-004","nextCode":"812-006","transcript":[{"start":8.45,"end":16.55,"text":"If you would like to record that speech, we could have it set up, if our offices could get that set up, to do right after them, we could tell them."},{"start":16.59,"end":19.79,"text":"And you can have time before we start doing that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed logistical arrangements for the recording of a campaign speech. The conversation focused on coordinating the technical setup for the recording session to follow other scheduled obligations. Nixon emphasized the need for Bull to manage the scheduling and necessary preparations for this production.","topics":["1972 campaign","Speech recording","Scheduling","Logistics","Carl T. Curtis"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:17:11.215Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-campaign","speech-recording","scheduling","logistics","carl-t-curtis"],"audioDurationSec":27,"audioFiles":[{"file":"812-005.mp3","bytes":644728,"durationSec":26.73,"bitrate":192936,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/812-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/812-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/812/conversation-812-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}