{"conversationCode":"812-007","tapeNumber":812,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-812-007","startDateTime":"1972-11-03T15:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-03T15:41:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:37 AM","endDate":"3-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:41 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Train, Russell E.; Willard, Beatrice (\"Bettie\"); Whitaker, John C.; White House photographer;","description":"On November 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, Russell E. Train, Beatrice (\"Bettie\") Willard, John C. Whitaker, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:37 am and 10:41 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 812-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 812-7\n\nDate: November 3, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:37 am and 10:46 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Council on Environmental Quality [CEQ]\n                  -Time constraint\n                         -John C. Whitaker\n\nThe President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -CEQ\n                  -Photograph session\n                  -John Busterude\n                         -1962 California campaign\n                  -Rank\n            -Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nRussell E. Train, Busterude, Beatrice (\"Bettie\") Willard, and Whitaker entered at 10:41 am. The\npress and photographers were present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n       Greetings\n\f                                           -8-\n\n                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                          Conversation No. 812-13 (cont’d)\n\n     Willard\n           -Ecology\n\n     Busterude\n          -Background\n               -[California] legislature\n\n     The President’s schedule\n\n     Photograph session\n          -Arrangements\n\n     [Photograph session]\n          -The President’s schedule\n                -Chicago, Oklahoma, Providence, Rhode Island\n                -San Clemente\n          -The President’s background\n                -Yorba Linda, California\n                -San Clemente\n                -Hannah Milhous Nixon, Frank Nixon\n\n     Ecology\n          -The President’s forthcoming State of the Union address\n               -Request for material\n                     -Timing\n                            -December 1, 1972\n          -The President’s support\n               -Conservation measures\n                     -Statement\n                            -Unknown matter\n                     -Turning off lights\n                     -Writing on backs of yellow pads of paper\n\n     Presidential gifts\n           -Presentation\n\n*****************************************************************\n\f                                             -9-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 812-13 (cont’d)\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n        1972 campaign [?]\n             -California\n             -John H. Chafee\n             -Californians\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nTrain et al. left at 10:46 am.","filename":["812-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Train, Russell E.","Willard, Beatrice (\"Bettie\")","Whitaker, John C.","White House photographer"],"prevCode":"812-006","nextCode":"812-008","transcript":[{"start":0.19,"end":2.25,"text":"See, you rule this area, Mr. President."},{"start":2.27,"end":4.61,"text":"See that little strange thing?"},{"start":5.13,"end":7.54,"text":"Wow."},{"start":7.56,"end":9.36,"text":"See, uh... See, listen."},{"start":10.94,"end":21.68,"text":"I'm sure they all understand how decent John Wagner is."},{"start":21.73,"end":24.81,"text":"John Wagner is one of the serious."},{"start":24.87,"end":26.13,"text":"They understand."},{"start":26.53,"end":28.61,"text":"They're the most down-to-earth."},{"start":29.6,"end":29.78,"text":"Excuse me."},{"start":67.7,"end":68.52,"text":"I don't know what you're talking about."},{"start":68.54,"end":69.3,"text":"I don't know what you're talking about."},{"start":69.32,"end":69.56,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":110.39,"end":113.59,"text":"Well, we're glad to have a woman planet on this island."},{"start":113.64,"end":117.48,"text":"And I say, look, I think that's the real future."},{"start":117.5,"end":120.26,"text":"You see, I'll let you see it all the time."},{"start":120.28,"end":122.08,"text":"I'll let you see it all the time."},{"start":122.18,"end":123.66,"text":"I'll let you see it all the time."},{"start":150.62,"end":158.53,"text":"Oh, I think I'm going to, I don't know, wait, but, uh, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to, uh,"},{"start":179.23,"end":179.37,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":189.41,"end":190.09,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":219.63,"end":220.65,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":266.12,"end":266.5,"text":"All right."},{"start":302.82,"end":303.02,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":328.5,"end":328.64,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":328.74,"end":328.84,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":328.92,"end":329.1,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":329.12,"end":329.24,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":363.7,"end":364.86,"text":"I won't let you go."},{"start":364.94,"end":366.14,"text":"I'm going to go chase you."},{"start":366.16,"end":367.5,"text":"I'm going to go chase you."},{"start":367.56,"end":369.2,"text":"I'm going to go chase you."},{"start":390.09,"end":392.09,"text":"We're out at 2, California."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with members of the Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ), including Russell E. Train and Beatrice Willard, for a formal photograph session and a discussion regarding environmental policy. The President requested that the Council provide material for his upcoming State of the Union address by December 1, 1972. During the exchange, Nixon also emphasized his commitment to conservation measures, such as energy-saving practices and paper recycling, while briefly touching upon his California background and campaign interests.","topics":["Council on Environmental Quality","State of the Union","Conservation","Environmental Policy","Nixon Campaign","White House Photography"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:17:23.965Z"},"topicSlugs":["council-on-environmental-quality","state-of-the-union","conservation","environmental-policy","nixon-campaign","white-house-photography"],"audioDurationSec":403,"audioFiles":[{"file":"812-007.mp3","bytes":9672714,"durationSec":402.89,"bitrate":192065,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.477Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:37.943Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/812-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/812-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/812/conversation-812-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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