{"conversationCode":"813-002","tapeNumber":813,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-813-002","startDateTime":"1972-11-08T13:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-08T14:14:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Nov-1972","startTime":"8:17 AM","endDate":"8-Nov-1972","endTime":"9:14 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:17 am and 9:14 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 813-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 813-2\n\nDate: November 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:17 am and 9:14 a.m.\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                                       -2-\n\n                                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                                             Conversation No. 813-2 (cont’d)\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n        1972 election\n             -Latest Illinois returns\n                    -Reports\n                    -Senator\n                    -Governor\n\n        Charles W. Colson\n             -Location\n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Deed of gift – Privacy]\n[Duration: 2s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n        Colson\n             -Location\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:14 am.","filename":["813-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"813-001","nextCode":"813-003","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":4.89,"text":"I'll be gone most of the time."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to review the latest election returns from Illinois, specifically regarding the outcomes for the state's gubernatorial and senatorial races. The discussion further addressed the whereabouts of Charles W. Colson in the immediate aftermath of the 1972 election. This brief interaction served as a status update on electoral results and personnel logistics.","topics":["1972 Presidential Election","Illinois election results","Charles W. Colson","White House personnel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:19:14.394Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-presidential-election","illinois-election-results","charles-w-colson","white-house-personnel"],"audioDurationSec":38,"audioFiles":[{"file":"813-002.mp3","bytes":916807,"durationSec":38.08,"bitrate":192602,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:38.157Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/813-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/813-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/813/conversation-813-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}