{"conversationCode":"813-013","tapeNumber":813,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-813-013","startDateTime":"1972-11-08T14:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-08T14:48:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Nov-1972","startTime":"9:31 AM","endDate":"8-Nov-1972","endTime":"9:48 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:31 am and 9:48 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 813-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 813-13\n\nDate: November 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:31 am and 9:48 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n*****************************************************************\n[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n\n       Copies\n            -Marjorie P. Acker\n\f                                               -8-\n\n                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 813-13 (cont’d)\n\n       1972 election\n            -The President’s letter to George S. McGovern\n                   -Patrick J. Buchanan\n                   -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\nButterfield left at 9:33 am and Stephen B. Bull entered at an uknown time after 9:31 am.\n\n       1972 election\n            -Returns\n                   -California\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:48 am.","filename":["813-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"813-012","nextCode":"813-014","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":8.39,"text":"Sir, this has got to be, this has got to be 2-1-1-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0"},{"start":18.07,"end":21.3,"text":"I doubt that it did."},{"start":21.7,"end":28.48,"text":"I just talked about it two minutes ago."},{"start":28.5,"end":38.18,"text":"I got it out of his office about a year ago."},{"start":50.97,"end":54.02,"text":"No, I think I can't do this."},{"start":54.04,"end":56.62,"text":"This is a little more of the emergency."},{"start":59.15,"end":60.05,"text":"That's not all."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull shortly after the 1972 presidential election to address administrative and correspondence matters. Discussions focused on the President's post-election letter to George McGovern, involving coordination with staff members Patrick Buchanan and H.R. Haldeman. Additionally, the participants reviewed the incoming election returns, specifically noting results from California.","topics":["1972 Presidential Election","George McGovern","Correspondence","California election returns","White House staffing"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:20:15.400Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-presidential-election","george-mcgovern","correspondence","california-election-returns","white-house-staffing"],"audioDurationSec":60,"audioFiles":[{"file":"813-013.mp3","bytes":1452226,"durationSec":60.37,"bitrate":192437,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:38.164Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/813-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/813-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/813/conversation-813-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}