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Nixon & Haldeman on Cabinet resignations and Second term reorganization

Wednesday, November 8, 1972 · 11:58 AM–11:59 AM ET · Oval Office · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation813-023 on Tape 813StartWednesday, November 8, 1972 at 11:58 AMEndWednesday, November 8, 1972 at 11:59 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 813-023 ↗

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discussed the logistics of administrative restructuring following the 1972 election, focusing on the upcoming submission of resignations by Cabinet members. Nixon instructed that all Cabinet officials submit their resignations to facilitate a comprehensive transition, with individual follow-up meetings planned within the next two weeks. The conversation also touched on the schedules of John A. Volpe and general preparations for the President's second-term reorganization.

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Yeah, I don't know if that hurts.
I want everybody to submit the only fair to do it.
That's the way that I want them to get their advice within a week or so about what their own plans were, what we ought to do in their departments, and so forth.
So I got pretty well laid on.
I said I would talk to them individually within a week to ten days, maybe the next two weeks.
Good.
How's that sound?
Good.
That's perfect.
All right.
You're all right.
You're done.
Now let me stretch you up.
Good.

On November 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:58 am to 11:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 813-023 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 813-23

Date: November 8, 1972
Time: 11:58 am - 11:59 am
Location: Oval Office
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                                          Conversation No. 813-23 (cont’d)

The President met with H. R (“Bob”) Haldeman.

       The President’s schedule
            -John A. Volpe’s schedule
                  -South America
                  -Transportation Department
                         -Reorganization
            -Haldeman’s schedule
                  -Cabinet meeting
            -Recent Cabinet meeting
                  -Resignations
                         -William P. Rogers
                         -Submission
                  -The President’s forthcoming meetings
                         -Future plans of individuals
                         -Second term reorganization
                         -Timing
            -Haldeman’s schedule
                  -[Recent White House staff meeting]

Haldman left at 11:59 am.
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Conversation 813-023, November 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/813-023 (accessed October 10, 2026).