{"conversationCode":"817-002","tapeNumber":817,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-817-002","startDateTime":"1972-11-30T13:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-30T13:34:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Nov-1972","startTime":"8:32 AM","endDate":"30-Nov-1972","endTime":"8:34 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Monzon, Zosimo T.;","description":"On November 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Zosimo T. Monzon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:32 am and 8:34 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 817-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 817-2\n\nDate: November 30, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:32 am and 8:34 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n       Greetings\n\n       White House mail\n             -Replies to incoming letters\n                    -Copies\n                            -Xeroxes and originals\n                                   -The President’s schedule\n                                          -Florida\n                    -Carl B. Albert [?]\n                    -Drafts\n                            -The President’s suggestions\n                    -Folder\n\nZosimo T. Monson [?] entered at unknown time after 8:32 am.\n\n       Pens\n              -Disposition\n              -Damage\n\f                        -3-                     3\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\nMonson [?} left at an unknown time before 8:34 pm.\n\n       White House mail\n             -Replies to incoming letters\n                    -Markings\n                    -The President’s notes\n             -The National League of Families of American Prisoners letter\n                    -Vice-President Spiro T. Agnew\n                            -Henry A. Kissinger’s office\n             -Arthur F. Burns\n                    -Note to the President\n                            -Reply\n                            -Timing\n                                   -1972 election\n                            -Reply\n\n       Pens\n              -Working condition\n              -Expense\n\nWoods left at an unknown time before 8:34 am.","filename":["817-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary","Monzon, Zosimo T."],"prevCode":"817-001","nextCode":"817-003","transcript":[{"start":17.29,"end":23.15,"text":"And I think, well, all those of us that, we send you the things, give them a dare to prepare the answer, or you the dare to send the original answer."},{"start":23.17,"end":29.39,"text":"So I should just be certain that all of us are part of that process?"},{"start":29.65,"end":30.15,"text":"I bet he could."},{"start":30.17,"end":35.81,"text":"But I think he was going to have to go on and on and on about the situation."},{"start":35.83,"end":40.49,"text":"Well, sometimes they will be gone, but you have to prepare them."},{"start":40.53,"end":45.94,"text":"Sometimes when you send suggestions back, they've been helpful, because they've been there, and they're here, and they've changed, and they're working."},{"start":52.74,"end":58.34,"text":"I can take that over and mark this one."},{"start":82.18,"end":96.08,"text":"My main concern is to know whether if the answer is gone, and I don't want to work on it at all, but if the answer is not gone, I will put a remote on with personal mode, which will help, which I'd like to do."},{"start":96.11,"end":104.23,"text":"I know that I may have, I want to be sure I don't dictate an answer, and if somebody, I know they'll channel, be sure it's not already gone out."},{"start":104.37,"end":106.83,"text":"Well, this is like, I can ask a couple questions first."},{"start":107.01,"end":111.59,"text":"The Vice President wants you to see this letter from the National League of Families of American Christians."},{"start":112.93,"end":113.75,"text":"He sent that over."},{"start":113.83,"end":115.37,"text":"And what did she look at?"},{"start":116.01,"end":116.45,"text":"Tampers."},{"start":116.85,"end":118.31,"text":"Okay."},{"start":118.37,"end":118.99,"text":"And are they burned?"},{"start":119.09,"end":132.94,"text":"I sent that over to, uh, to, uh, to, uh, to, uh, to, uh, to, uh, to, uh,"},{"start":133.74,"end":140.75,"text":"And our parents, they had prepared just to use the little remote, and you thought you wouldn't bother writing it, but he's written a couple of nice ones."},{"start":140.87,"end":143.03,"text":"I don't think we could just die on that one."},{"start":143.05,"end":143.57,"text":"No, that's a good one."},{"start":144.17,"end":148.25,"text":"He's written a couple of nice ones."},{"start":168.16,"end":176.31,"text":"I thought you might want to take it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Zosimo T. Monzon met to coordinate the administrative processing of presidential correspondence and official White House mail. The discussion focused on establishing protocols for drafting, reviewing, and tracking responses to ensure letters were not duplicated or handled improperly. Additionally, the group briefly addressed logistical matters concerning the maintenance and condition of official pens used by the President.","topics":["White House administration","Correspondence management","Rose Mary Woods","Presidential records","Administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:24:58.480Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","correspondence-management","rose-mary-woods","presidential-records","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":199,"audioFiles":[{"file":"817-002.mp3","bytes":4780022,"durationSec":199.04,"bitrate":192123,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:39.378Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/817-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/817-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/817/conversation-817-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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