{"conversationCode":"817-003","tapeNumber":817,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-817-003","startDateTime":"1972-11-30T13:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-30T14:15:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Nov-1972","startTime":"8:34 AM","endDate":"30-Nov-1972","endTime":"9:15 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Monzon, Zosimo T.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Zosimo T. Monzon, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:34 am to 9:15 am. 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Brown\n\n       Pens\n              -Points\n                        -Wear\n                        -Change\n                        -Size\n\f                     -4-                     4\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n      Notebook\n            -The President’s conversation with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n            -Ann Duggan\n            -Refills\n            -Number\n            -Tricia Nixon Cox\n            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n            -Placement\n                     -Camp David\n                     -Florida\n                     -California\n            -Notes\n\n      Office supplies\n              -Pens\n                     -Number\n                     -Quality\n              -Note pads\n                     -Size\n                            -Cabinet table\n                     -Duggan\n                     -Order\n\n      Mrs. Nixon\n             -Rose Bowl parade\n                    -Herbert G. Klein\n                    -University of Southern California [USC]\n                    -John Wayne\n                           -Grand marshal\n                    -The President’s schedule\n                           -Honors\n                           -Florida\n                           -California\n                                   -Family\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\f                        -5-                  5\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n       Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n             -Jack, Drown, Helene (Colesie) Drown\n                     -California\n                     -Robert W. Hirsh [?]\n                     -Leonard K. Firestone\n                             -Blaire House\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Mrs. Nixon\n              -Camp David\n              -California\n              -Christmas\n                      -Jack Drown\n              -Camp David\n              -Jack Drown, Helene Drown\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/20/2022.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[817-003-w001]\n[Duration: 2m 5s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nMonson [?] entered at an unknown time after 8:34 am.\n\n       Pens\n              -Points\n                        -Change\n\f                      -6-                      6\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\nMonson [?] left at an unknown time before 8:50 am.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Jack Drown, Helene Drown\n                     -Visit to the White House\n                             -Vietnam negotiations\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 02/21/2023.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[817-003-w012]\n[Duration: 14s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n       California visitors\n              -Cocktail party\n              -The President’s plans\n                       -Camp David\n              -Blair House\n              -Blue Room\n                       -Response of visitors\n\n       White House remodeling\n             -Upstairs kitchen\n\f                     -7-                     7\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                    -Mrs. Nixon\n                            -San Clemente\n                    -Third floor room\n                            -Tricia Nixon Cox\n                            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                            -Décor\n                                                                -Lyndon B. Johnson, Claudia\n                                    A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson\n                                   -Texas\n                                   -Tastes\n                            -Family’s use\n\n      The President’s schedule\n             -Rose bowl\n                     -Mrs. Nixon\n             -Florida trip\n             -Inauguration\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/19/2022.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[817-003-w013]\n[Duration: 16s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 13\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      The President’s schedule\n             -Christmas\n                     -Florida\n                     -California\n             -Relatives\n                     -Inauguration\n\f                     -8-                      8\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                    -F. Donald Nixon\n                    -Jack Drown, Helene Drown\n                           -Florida\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 02/21/2023.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[817-003-w014]\n[Duration: 22s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 14\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis\n             -Trip to Soviet Union\n             -[Dwight} David Eisenhower, II\n                     -Career\n                     -Writing\n                     -Los Angeles Times\n             -Personality\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      Watergate\n            -Gabriel Hauge’s letter to the President\n                   -The President’s reply\n                          -Underlining\n                          -Taping\n                          -The President’s appreciation\n                          -Hauge’s previous letters\n                                  -Economic policy\n                                           -Wage and price controls\n\f                     -9-                    9\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                                  -Vietnam\n                                         -Cambodia\n                                  -Form\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n      Anthony R. (“Tony”) telephone call to Rose Mary Woods\n            -Clothes for inauguration\n                    -Arrangements\n\n      Benjamin Freeman\n            -Health\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      White House gifts\n            -Music boxes\n                   -Cost\n                   -Song list\n                          -Typing\n                                  -Marjorie P. Acker\n                                  -The President's review\n                   -Occasions\n                          -Christmas, 1973 inauguration\n                                  -Songs\n                   -Cost\n                   -Possible recipients\n                          -Mrs. Nixon’s brothers [William and Tom Ryan]\n                          -The President’s brothers [Edward C. Nixon and F. Donald Nixon]\n                   -1973 Inauguration\n                   -Possible recipients\n                          -Elmer H. Bobst\n                          -Contributors\n                                  -John A. (“Jack”) Mulcahy\n                                  -John W. Rollins\n\f                         -10-                 10\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                                      -W. Clement Stone\n                                      -Richard Scaife\n                                      -C. Arnholt Smith\n                                      -Mulcahy\n                     -Song list\n                            -The President's review\n                                   -The President’s schedule\n                                           -Meeting Ngyun Phu Duc\n                            -Timing\n                            -Acker\n                            -Genres\n                                   -Classical\n                                   -Contemporary\n                                           -Old Black Joe by Stephen C. Foster\n               -Mandolin\n                     -John M. (“Jack”) Lynch\n                            -Possible telephone call from the President\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at 8:58 am.\n\n       Howard Hughes\n\n       The President’s file\n\n       The President’s schedule\n              -Florida\n\n       Oval office furnishings\n              -Japanese art work\n                      -Removal\n                      -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.\n                      -Replacement\n                             -Chinese jade ewer\n\nBull left at 8:59 a.m.\n\n       Book [For the President Personal and Secret [Correspondence between Franklin D.\n       Roosevelt and William C. Bullitt]\n             -Bullitt\n                      -Orville H. Bullitt\n\f                    -11-                     11\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                    -Photograph\n\n      The President’s schedule\n             -Recent trip to New York\n                    -Ties\n                             -Ann [and Tom] Duggan\n                             -1973 Inauguration\n             -Possible meeting with Pedro Beltran\n                    -Frank J. Shakespeare’s recent telephone call\n                             -Beltran’s schedule\n                                     -New York\n                    -Timing\n                             -Post 1973 Inauguration\n                             -Foreign visitors\n                    -Shakespeare’s possible conversation with Beltran\n                    -Beltran’s background\n                             -Peru Prime Minister\n                             -Editors, speaker\n                             -Relationship with the President\n             -William P. Rogers\n             -Henry A. Kissinger\n             -William J. Casey\n                                     -Forthcoming appointment as Under Secretary of State for\n                      Economic Affairs\n                             -Announcement\n                                     -Timing\n                    -Loyalty\n                    -Forthcoming appointment\n                             -Latin America\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n      Executive Office Building [EOB]\n             -Décor\n                    -Elephant\n                    -Baron Guido Zerilli-Marimo\n\f                    -12-                    12\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                    -Pictures\n                            -Mrs. Nixon\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      White House gifts\n            -State gifts\n                    -Quality\n                           -Mrs. Nixon’s view\n            -The Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s gifts\n                    -Quality\n                           -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n            -State gifts\n                    -Quality\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n      White House social affairs\n            -Christmas Season\n                   -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                           -Return to Washington, DC\n                           -Assistance\n                           -Mrs. Nixon\n                   -Parties\n                           -Attendance\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      White House social affairs\n            -First Family attendance\n            -Parties\n                    -Decorations\n            -Timing\n                    -Nights\n\f                    -13-                    13\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n             -First Family’s attendance\n                     -Press\n             -White House staff, Cabinet\n\n      Executive Office Building [EOB]\n             -Visits\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n      1973 Inauguration\n             -F. Donald Nixon\n                    -Evelyn Dorn\n                            -Work\n                            -Roberta Dorn\n                    -Requests\n                            -Hotel bill\n                                    -Jack Drown, Helene Drown\n                                    -Larry Dorn, Evelyn Dorn [?]\n                                    -Payment\n             -Edward C. Nixon\n                    -Employment\n                            -Ned Sullivan\n                            -Roberta Dorn\n                            -Secretary\n                    -Nixon family\n                            -Arrangements\n                            -Discussion with Mrs. Nixon, Sullivan\n                    -Employment\n                            -Roberta Dorn\n                            -Secretary from 1972 campaign\n                            -Sullivan\n                    -Travel\n             -The President’s relatives\n                    -Cousins\n                            -Plans\n                    -Letters\n\f                    -14-                    14\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                    -Cousins\n                    -Mrs. Nixon\n                    -Priority\n             -Campaign contributors\n                    -Sullivan\n                    -Lists\n                            -Maurice H. Stans\n                            -Clark MacGregor\n                            -John B. Connally\n                            -Peter J. Brennan\n                                    -Labor\n                            -New supporters\n             -The President’s relatives\n                    -Contributors\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      Appointments\n                   -Untied Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization\n              [UNESCO] ambassadorship\n                   -[Ned Sullivan]\n                          -Louise Gore\n                                  -Paris\n                                  -Resignation\n                          -Identity\n                                  -Mrs. Nixon’s second cousin\n             -Edward C. Nixon\n                   -Employment by government\n                          -White House\n                          -John W. Dean, III\n                                  -Legal work\n                                         -White House, Federal agencies\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\f                    -15-                     15\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n      Donald Nixon\n            -Personality\n            -Robert L. Vesco\n            -Call to Woods\n                    -Assistance\n                    -John D. Ehrlichman’s office\n            -Health\n                    -Ehrlichman’s investigation\n                    -Hyperactivity\n\n      Notebooks\n            -First family\n                     -Christmas gift\n            -Store\n            -Woods’ purchase\n            -New York\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/19/2022.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[817-003-w011]\n[Duration: 37s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 11\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n      Ann Duggan\n            -Campaign contribution\n            -Wealth\n            -Mrs. Nixon\n            -Marriage\n            -England\n\f                    -16-                        16\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n              -Sylvan Destreicher\n                      -Baseball team\n              -Invitation to 1973 Inaugural\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nWoods left at 9:15 am.","filename":["817-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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would be this way."},{"start":159.26,"end":167.34,"text":"Those little left angles that have a, that stick to the marker because then we've got to reach it."},{"start":176.83,"end":188.96,"text":"Now, if there are, may I say this, maybe, I don't have that exact one, but I guess we need one with a stronger paper, this shape, even that doesn't matter."},{"start":189.06,"end":194.54,"text":"You can check around and see whether there's some spikes or anything."},{"start":194.56,"end":200.94,"text":"And then if they fall, I need them anyway, because I use notepads a great deal."},{"start":200.98,"end":202.93,"text":"You don't like the little ones they use, like on a pad?"},{"start":202.94,"end":203.95,"text":"That's too small, isn't it?"},{"start":205.3,"end":206.86,"text":"They're too small, yeah."},{"start":206.9,"end":210.26,"text":"The ones in the captain's table are too small."},{"start":210.3,"end":216.85,"text":"I need a size about that or slightly bigger so that I can write it."},{"start":218.11,"end":219.23,"text":"That size is fine."},{"start":219.69,"end":223.97,"text":"And hers was probably a little too heavy to take, but it's all right."},{"start":223.99,"end":225.21,"text":"It's better than any I can see."},{"start":225.23,"end":230.24,"text":"You know, they don't make many things like that because most of them make those up extensively."},{"start":231,"end":233.9,"text":"But one about this size would be fine."},{"start":239.71,"end":239.87,"text":"Yes."},{"start":240.05,"end":241.29,"text":"Maybe Becker's might have it."},{"start":241.31,"end":243.88,"text":"I'll go look at Becker's, and I can't wait to look for it."},{"start":243.9,"end":245.84,"text":"Why don't you go look for it?"},{"start":246.02,"end":248.03,"text":"I'll go look for three of those."},{"start":270.77,"end":271.49,"text":"It's a great thing."},{"start":271.63,"end":275.74,"text":"It's a great client, but it worked out to be very good."},{"start":276.92,"end":279.64,"text":"And it's a special guest of mine, which they should do."},{"start":279.66,"end":283.46,"text":"In fact, she's in the University of Southern Oklahoma."},{"start":283.54,"end":288.25,"text":"She's also staying with Shabbat."},{"start":288.45,"end":288.53,"text":"And..."},{"start":290.7,"end":292.61,"text":"It's a big group that I'm so sure I can pray."},{"start":292.7,"end":295.35,"text":"John Wayne is going to be a grand marshy."},{"start":295.37,"end":295.73,"text":"And I have built."},{"start":295.75,"end":297.73,"text":"She's exactly the right man."},{"start":297.75,"end":300.15,"text":"If I had been the man in the car with her, then of course."},{"start":300.93,"end":301.41,"text":"Well, that isn't right."},{"start":301.43,"end":302.69,"text":"She should get the honors."},{"start":302.75,"end":304.44,"text":"She's not going to spend the period over there."},{"start":304.45,"end":311.82,"text":"I mean, she should be paid for it."},{"start":311.96,"end":314.62,"text":"She should spend it."},{"start":314.64,"end":316.41,"text":"She should help all the relatives and the jobs."},{"start":316.43,"end":317.99,"text":"I'll let you guys have a good chat in California."},{"start":321.69,"end":325.51,"text":"Isn't this a sad thing?"},{"start":325.63,"end":326.39,"text":"It is."},{"start":327.12,"end":336.82,"text":"Well, Father told me that Firestone was going to entertain the men who had given the most and then make a pitch for Bob, I think."},{"start":336.86,"end":338.02,"text":"Maybe not a pitch for Bob."},{"start":338.84,"end":340.26,"text":"I just know that he's going to declare that."},{"start":340.46,"end":344.84,"text":"Whatever it is for Bob, you know, I'm all for it."},{"start":344.9,"end":345.52,"text":"All for it."},{"start":345.54,"end":345.82,"text":"I know."},{"start":346.38,"end":346.92,"text":"Well, he's fine."},{"start":347.62,"end":348.36,"text":"He's all right."},{"start":348.9,"end":350.46,"text":"I told Pat I'm already going to be at Camp David."},{"start":350.48,"end":354.07,"text":"I should be bringing her up there, but it's all right."},{"start":355.49,"end":358.63,"text":"But you're going to go by that California when I understand, right?"},{"start":358.71,"end":358.99,"text":"Yes, yes."},{"start":359.13,"end":360.05,"text":"I'll come that time."},{"start":360.17,"end":361.39,"text":"I'll just come down and do it."},{"start":361.61,"end":365.21,"text":"I've got to be at Camp David all week next week."},{"start":365.27,"end":368.99,"text":"Of course, she's coming back for Christmas."},{"start":369.05,"end":370.61,"text":"Rosebud, we're going to see if Jack is with her."},{"start":371.75,"end":375.95,"text":"And that he will come and pop it up there."},{"start":376.79,"end":382.81,"text":"And if so, I will, what I will do is just move my sight of being here."},{"start":383.89,"end":386.95,"text":"And I'll just get the hell out of there."},{"start":387.21,"end":390.63,"text":"Because I'm not going to go through, I'm not going to expose myself."},{"start":400.74,"end":402.26,"text":"Does it have been changed?"},{"start":402.38,"end":408.08,"text":"Yes, it was, sir."},{"start":408.12,"end":408.2,"text":"Yes."},{"start":408.23,"end":408.5,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":408.69,"end":413.71,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":413.73,"end":413.89,"text":"Well..."},{"start":414.13,"end":414.63,"text":"Okay."},{"start":414.65,"end":417.73,"text":"And, and... For them to announce, you know, it's a goddamn shame, Rose."},{"start":417.79,"end":423.71,"text":"Knowing that this time, I mean, they can't... Knowing that this time it really would be a crime."},{"start":423.81,"end":428.44,"text":"And for them to announce that they're going to bust it at the White House, it is mind-boggling."},{"start":441.48,"end":443.82,"text":"I just don't worry about it."},{"start":443.86,"end":450.54,"text":"Whichever way they play it, you just do the opposite."},{"start":450.58,"end":454.08,"text":"Just don't let them take up your time."},{"start":454.2,"end":462.75,"text":"They go up there, you come down here."},{"start":480.53,"end":481.65,"text":"And have them all have a drink."},{"start":481.67,"end":485.33,"text":"And then they can walk the hell out over to the other place you see them."},{"start":485.37,"end":489.45,"text":"Go to the other place and have their dinner."},{"start":489.47,"end":501.77,"text":"And I'll get on the helicopter and call them if you need me."},{"start":501.97,"end":502.15,"text":"Okay."},{"start":502.17,"end":502.59,"text":"Very 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of his campaign."},{"start":1740.03,"end":1741.83,"text":"I heard that from so many people."},{"start":1741.89,"end":1746.83,"text":"And, you know, he didn't get through to people."},{"start":1746.85,"end":1748.25,"text":"Well, he's a very patient soul."},{"start":1749.23,"end":1750.27,"text":"Like his mother."},{"start":1750.31,"end":1750.49,"text":"Right."},{"start":1750.51,"end":1750.67,"text":"He is."},{"start":1750.73,"end":1755.77,"text":"He's very much like his mother."},{"start":1755.85,"end":1758.62,"text":"And people immediately sense that he's such a decent man."},{"start":1758.63,"end":1761.82,"text":"And you probably know he's had a lot of time with Melanie."},{"start":1767.82,"end":1779.41,"text":"He called for me and I had some people with me."},{"start":1796.81,"end":1803.47,"text":"And he said to me, he said to the operator, well, just tell her she'd better get on that phone or I won't be responsible."},{"start":1803.79,"end":1808.57,"text":"So I said to the operator, you're just connecting with this early one dog."},{"start":1808.63,"end":1810.43,"text":"And, you know, I had to be on it."},{"start":1810.82,"end":1811.6,"text":"Did you hear him say that?"},{"start":1813.78,"end":1819.62,"text":"The operator told me that she kept coming back to me and probably said, he's so bad."},{"start":1821.01,"end":1822.41,"text":"I think he's really starting out."},{"start":1822.49,"end":1825.01,"text":"He's got such a high-fiving idea of himself."},{"start":1825.83,"end":1836.43,"text":"They think, earlier when I was looking into it, they think there's a chemical problem."},{"start":1839.95,"end":1840.45,"text":"There's something."},{"start":1840.47,"end":1845.5,"text":"There's a chemical problem which makes him over-hyperactive."},{"start":1845.76,"end":1849.12,"text":"If they get to 42, maybe they're getting related."},{"start":1849.55,"end":1850.51,"text":"but they don't usually."},{"start":1850.79,"end":1852.01,"text":"Did you mention it to them?"},{"start":1852.49,"end":1857.75,"text":"I said if you could get some of them, but I don't mind putting it into that store."},{"start":1858.39,"end":1860.99,"text":"So you just buy them, because I can use two of them."},{"start":1861.04,"end":1862.32,"text":"I can use two, see."},{"start":1862.76,"end":1864.52,"text":"And that would be great."},{"start":1864.64,"end":1877.61,"text":"And $10,000 contribution to that."},{"start":1880.92,"end":1881.22,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Rose Mary Woods, Stephen B. 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