{"conversationCode":"817-009","tapeNumber":817,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-817-009","startDateTime":"1972-11-30T16:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-30T16:49:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Nov-1972","startTime":"11:34 AM","endDate":"30-Nov-1972","endTime":"11:49 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:34 am and 11:49 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 817-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 817-9\n\nDate: November 30, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:34 am and 11:49 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President's schedule\n              -Meeting with “Nguyen Phu Duc\n                      -Henry A. Kissinger\n              -Meeting with Tricia Nixon Cox\n                      -Timing\n                      -Possible telephone call\n\f                      -52-                      52\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n                -Meeting with Kissinger\n                       -Telephone call\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:49 am","filename":["817-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"817-008","nextCode":"817-010","transcript":[{"start":3.89,"end":8.42,"text":"Why don't you just say it to me directly at 12 noon, and I'll give you time."},{"start":9.16,"end":15.44,"text":"See if Christian can step over now, if she can step over."},{"start":15.46,"end":15.78,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":15.8,"end":23.95,"text":"And if she can come right away, if she can't, I'll talk to her on the phone."},{"start":24.11,"end":25.87,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":25.93,"end":29.95,"text":"If she can come right away, but otherwise, let me know if she can or can't."},{"start":29.97,"end":32.99,"text":"Let Henry say, tell Henry 12 noon, or he's fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinated the scheduling of several urgent meetings, specifically involving Henry Kissinger, Nguyen Phu Duc, and Tricia Nixon Cox. Nixon instructed Bull to arrange a noon meeting with Kissinger and to determine if his daughter could visit the Oval Office immediately or receive a telephone call instead. The conversation focused on managing the President's immediate agenda and ensuring clear lines of communication with his staff and family.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Henry Kissinger","Tricia Nixon Cox","Nguyen Phu Duc","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:25:39.167Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","henry-kissinger","tricia-nixon-cox","nguyen-phu-duc","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":38,"audioFiles":[{"file":"817-009.mp3","bytes":917183,"durationSec":38.08,"bitrate":192685,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:39.381Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/817-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/817-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/817/conversation-817-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}