{"conversationCode":"817-014","tapeNumber":817,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-817-014","startDateTime":"1972-11-30T17:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-30T17:15:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Nov-1972","startTime":"12:10 PM","endDate":"30-Nov-1972","endTime":"12:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On November 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:10 pm and 12:15 pm. 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Acker\n                   -Orders\n                          -Acker\n                   -Recipients\n                          -Cabinet officers\n                   -Compared to ashy trays\n                   -Cost\n                   -Maurice H. Stans’ schedule\n                          -Stans’ conversations with the President\n                   -Recipients\n                          -Contributors\n\f                    -62-                     62\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 817-17 (cont’d)\n\n****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 12/20/2022.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[817-014-w001]\n[Duration 13s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n****************************************************************\n\n****************************************************************\n\n       Writing pads\n              -Purchase\n                     -Wood’s trip to New York\n                     -Quality","filename":["817-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"817-013","nextCode":"817-015","transcript":[{"start":0.28,"end":7.38,"text":"Oh, Rose, on those songs, do I just call you tomorrow and then repeat the numbers after I'm done studying them?"},{"start":8.4,"end":9.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":9.74,"end":11.3,"text":"Great, great."},{"start":11.52,"end":14.52,"text":"Well, I'll do it tomorrow."},{"start":14.84,"end":24.36,"text":"And then she can go ahead and order the boxes because I, and if you could be thinking in terms of people, I mean, very discreetly, I don't want to be on there."},{"start":26.08,"end":30.78,"text":"For example, I'm thinking, for example, some of the cabinet people that are leaving, I might give them to, you see."},{"start":30.82,"end":35.48,"text":"Yeah, I'm going to give them that, but, you know, sort of an extra thing."},{"start":35.5,"end":41.82,"text":"You know, it's a little, a little, you know, it's sort of like the tax rate, except a hell of a lot more expensive."},{"start":42.64,"end":46.15,"text":"But I'm so glad the prices are good, $125, $150."},{"start":47.61,"end":47.85,"text":"Good."},{"start":48.19,"end":53.63,"text":"But you see, it's so, you might talk with a little more ."},{"start":55.64,"end":56.56,"text":"Yeah, yeah, he said ."},{"start":56.86,"end":69.99,"text":"Yeah, I've been talking to him, but he said he's out of touch, I know, for the rest of the week."},{"start":70.71,"end":74.63,"text":"But at the end of the week, we've got to win on the names."},{"start":76.03,"end":80.38,"text":"I'm thinking about Tom and contributors and good people like that."},{"start":81.44,"end":85.79,"text":"And do you think we ought to perhaps... No, it's too much to give to family and people, really."},{"start":85.83,"end":87.99,"text":"We don't give gifts anyway."},{"start":88.67,"end":88.83,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":88.85,"end":89.67,"text":"I think we should retain it."},{"start":89.69,"end":92.55,"text":"I think it should be just the top ten contributors."},{"start":92.57,"end":94.19,"text":"I think it should be the..."},{"start":104.76,"end":104.9,"text":"Okay."},{"start":105.02,"end":110.42,"text":"And when you're in New York, if you are going to... Why don't you just drop by and get that?"},{"start":114.17,"end":115.21,"text":"It doesn't have to be the same one."},{"start":115.23,"end":117.4,"text":"Just provide it into the paper and tear us off easily."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the logistics of procuring high-end gifts, specifically music boxes, for cabinet members and major political contributors. Nixon reviews song lists for the boxes and instructs Woods to coordinate orders while maintaining discretion regarding the recipients. The pair also considers the acquisition of high-quality writing pads during Woods' upcoming trip to New York to ensure appropriate presidential gift-giving materials.","topics":["White House gifts","Rose Mary Woods","Political contributors","Cabinet members","Procurement"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:26:07.810Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-gifts","rose-mary-woods","political-contributors","cabinet-members","procurement"],"audioDurationSec":127,"audioFiles":[{"file":"817-014.mp3","bytes":3050032,"durationSec":126.93,"bitrate":192228,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:39.382Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/817-014.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/817-014","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/817/conversation-817-014","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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