{"conversationCode":"818-005","tapeNumber":818,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-818-005","startDateTime":"1972-12-05T17:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-05T17:31:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Dec-1972","startTime":"12:30 PM","endDate":"5-Dec-1972","endTime":"12:31 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:30 pm and 12:31 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 818-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 818-5\n\nDate: December 5, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:30 pm and 12:31 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n      The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with M. Harvey Taylor, Leroy S. Zimmerman, and Alexander P. Butterfield\n               -Photograph session\n\nBull left at 12:30 pm.","filename":["818-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"818-004","nextCode":"818-006","transcript":[{"start":0.49,"end":2.93,"text":"But I'll give you that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to finalize logistical details regarding an upcoming photograph session. The discussion focused on coordinating the President's schedule to accommodate a meeting with M. Harvey Taylor, Leroy S. Zimmerman, and Alexander P. Butterfield. Following these administrative arrangements, Bull departed the Oval Office.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Stephen B. Bull","Photography session","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:27:04.323Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","stephen-b-bull","photography-session","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"818-005.mp3","bytes":469547,"durationSec":19.43,"bitrate":193361,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.478Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/818-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/818-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/818/conversation-818-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}