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Nixon & Bull on Dwight L. Chapin and Ronald H. Walker

Wednesday, December 13, 1972 · 2:48 PM–2:57 PM ET · Oval Office · 53 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation822-004 on Tape 822StartWednesday, December 13, 1972 at 2:48 PMEndWednesday, December 13, 1972 at 2:57 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 822-004 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to review upcoming scheduling logistics, specifically focusing on an appointment with Dwight L. Chapin and Ronald H. Walker. The discussion centered on providing a gift for Chapin and reviewing the organizational structure of the National Park Service in relation to the White House. They also discussed the role and utilization of the U.S. Park Police during the 1972 presidential campaign.

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Well, he has already.
and we don't give them anything.
Point of interest, you might want to mention that.
What we're going to like to make is that the structure of the Park Service, the White House, is presentation number one, and it's on your calendar.
And he also has his own police force.
Yeah, Park Police.
Right.
Good.
He had to be used during the campaign.
Yeah, and that is something.
Right.
Or the other side.
Any time.
Sure.

NARA Description

On December 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:48 pm and 2:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 822-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 822-4

Date: December 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:48 pm and 2:57 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -Meeting with Dwight L. Chapin and Ronald H. Walker
                  -Gift for Chapin
                         -Ashtray
                         -Chapin’s retention
                         -National Park Service [NPS]
                               -White House
                               -Park police
                                     -1972 campaign

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:57 pm.
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Cite this conversation

Conversation 822-004, December 13, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/822-004 (accessed October 1, 2026).