{"conversationCode":"822-010","tapeNumber":822,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-822-010","startDateTime":"1972-12-13T21:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-13T21:15:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Dec-1972","startTime":"4:13 PM","endDate":"13-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 822-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 822-10\n\nDate: December 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:13 pm and 4:15 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -Meeting with [Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson]\n                  -Interruption\n                         -Timing\n\f                                               -20-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                               Conversation No. 822-14 (cont’d)\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:15 pm.","filename":["822-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"822-009","nextCode":"822-011","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":0.89,"text":"Sir, are you ready?"},{"start":0.93,"end":1.17,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.19,"end":4.19,"text":"If you let him go, he'll lose his trust in you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly in the Oval Office to coordinate the timing and logistics of a scheduled meeting with Senator Henry M. \"Scoop\" Jackson. The conversation centered on the potential negative impact that interrupting or delaying the senator might have on their professional relationship and mutual trust. No further policy decisions were recorded during this short exchange.","topics":["Henry M. Jackson","Presidential scheduling","Political strategy","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:31:22.985Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-m-jackson","presidential-scheduling","political-strategy","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"822-010.mp3","bytes":416256,"durationSec":17.21,"bitrate":193457,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.847Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:40.579Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/822-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/822-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/822/conversation-822-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}