{"conversationCode":"822-013","tapeNumber":822,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-822-013","startDateTime":"1972-12-13T23:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-14T04:59:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Dec-1972","startTime":"6:09 PM","endDate":"13-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On December 13, 1972, Stephen B. Bull and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:09 pm and 11:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 822-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 822-13\n\nDate: December 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 6:09 pm and 11:59 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nStephen B. Bull met with an unknown person.\n\n       Greetings\n\n       The President’s location\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:59 pm.","filename":["822-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Bull, Stephen B.","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"822-012","nextCode":"822-014","transcript":[{"start":0.21,"end":1.88,"text":"Can you hear me?"},{"start":1.92,"end":2.34,"text":"Yes, Mr. Polk."},{"start":2.38,"end":3.1,"text":"How are you, sir?"},{"start":3.42,"end":3.99,"text":"Good to see you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Stephen B. Bull met with an unidentified individual in the Oval Office for a brief, informal exchange. The conversation consisted primarily of standard greetings and an inquiry regarding the President's current location. No significant policy discussions or administrative decisions were recorded during this brief encounter.","topics":["Stephen B. Bull","Presidential schedule","Oval Office","Personnel logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:31:40.699Z"},"topicSlugs":["stephen-b-bull","presidential-schedule","oval-office","personnel-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"822-013.mp3","bytes":367361,"durationSec":15.17,"bitrate":193687,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/822-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/822-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/822/conversation-822-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}