{"conversationCode":"823-008","tapeNumber":823,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-823-008","startDateTime":"1972-12-14T18:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-14T18:05:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Dec-1972","startTime":"1:02 PM","endDate":"14-Dec-1972","endTime":"1:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On December 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:02 pm to 1:05 pm. 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(President)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"823-007","nextCode":"823-009","transcript":[{"start":2.19,"end":4.89,"text":"Hi, Chris, how are you?"},{"start":4.94,"end":7.74,"text":"I know, I just wanted to see how everything was going."},{"start":7.8,"end":9.96,"text":"Is your trip going great?"},{"start":14.58,"end":15.54,"text":"Oh, great."},{"start":21.36,"end":21.93,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":29.11,"end":31.03,"text":"That'll be a great experience because"},{"start":32.51,"end":36.41,"text":"And he said, I say to you, tell Franklin that you're not like I am under his courage."},{"start":37.41,"end":48.6,"text":"So far, and the fact that he's, you know, that he's, that, you know, they're not to be worried, my father said, about practical poles or go up and down."},{"start":48.76,"end":53.78,"text":"He said that I'm the greatest expert in the world at being down and coming up."},{"start":53.8,"end":55.04,"text":"So I did exactly the same thing."},{"start":55.1,"end":58.65,"text":"I told him, you know you're not supposed to get him."},{"start":60.25,"end":64.13,"text":"all of his British politics and so forth, but of another country."},{"start":64.19,"end":70.27,"text":"But you can be sure that when he was elected, there was a lot of cheering in our household."},{"start":70.29,"end":72.47,"text":"You can tell him that."},{"start":73,"end":73.44,"text":"Okay."},{"start":73.45,"end":74.8,"text":"Right."},{"start":75,"end":81.34,"text":"And if you see how he's there, sir, on the board, I'm sure he's a very good friend also."},{"start":82.64,"end":83.1,"text":"Okay."},{"start":83.12,"end":84.72,"text":"Tony Barber."},{"start":91.04,"end":99.51,"text":"Well, there's much they did, and now they still have to all up in the air, and we're going to have to continue to keep the heat on them, because they haven't agreed with the right kind of things."},{"start":99.67,"end":101.55,"text":"But we'll keep the heat on, and we'll make sure we get it."},{"start":103.45,"end":104.23,"text":"We don't know."},{"start":104.25,"end":108.44,"text":"Well, I don't assume anything, but I mean, I say eventually, but I don't know when."},{"start":109.52,"end":109.74,"text":"Right?"},{"start":110.04,"end":111.72,"text":"But we'll just do the best we can."},{"start":112.76,"end":117.48,"text":"But in the meantime, you're going off to the night and dining, and"},{"start":123.67,"end":124.97,"text":"Oh, yes, that's tomorrow."},{"start":129.33,"end":130.55,"text":"Oh, is his party tonight?"},{"start":134.1,"end":135.6,"text":"Well, what time is it there now?"},{"start":139.02,"end":140.78,"text":"Well, then you're going on to the prime minister's."},{"start":142.58,"end":145.77,"text":"And then Paul Getty's party is tonight."},{"start":159.97,"end":160.43,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":160.63,"end":162.61,"text":"I'll try to give him a call."},{"start":162.63,"end":165.06,"text":"I always remember my visit with him."},{"start":165.12,"end":168.78,"text":"I've appreciated his letters through the years."},{"start":169,"end":169.9,"text":"He's the very best."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon speaks with his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, to check in on her recent travel experiences and social engagements in Britain. During the conversation, Nixon discusses international political resilience and offers encouragement for a message to be relayed to a British political contact regarding political perseverance. They also touch upon diplomatic relations and the President's personal fondness for J. Paul Getty.","topics":["Tricia Nixon Cox","International Diplomacy","Political Resilience","J. 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