{"conversationCode":"825-003","tapeNumber":825,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-825-003","startDateTime":"1972-12-16T14:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-16T14:37:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Dec-1972","startTime":"9:15 AM","endDate":"16-Dec-1972","endTime":"9:37 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:15 am and 9:37 am. 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Dobrynin\n                               -Residence\n                  -Timing\n                         -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s or Kissinger’s attendance\n                               -Haldeman’s view\n                  -Duration\n                  -Timing\n                         -The President’s meeting with Kissinger\n                         -Message for Agnew\n                               -Breakfast meeting\n                         -Kissinger’s meeting with Dobrynin\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:37 am.\n\f                                                -3-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["825-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"825-002","nextCode":"825-004","transcript":[{"start":0.46,"end":5.34,"text":"Mr. President, Vice President Trump, I hope you'd like to see the Senate D.C. press meeting this morning at 11 o'clock."},{"start":5.42,"end":7.94,"text":"The Vice President is in now and is open the rest of the time to the meeting."},{"start":7.98,"end":28.7,"text":"Although he is aware of the Vice President's request, I wonder if we can have the Vice President come over now and I hate to say it, but I felt it was necessary that either Henry or I hate to say it, but I'm sorry."},{"start":28.73,"end":30,"text":"Before I open the clock, yes, sir."},{"start":32.16,"end":35.09,"text":"I don't know the duration of the meeting."},{"start":35.2,"end":48.63,"text":"I can see about 10 o'clock."},{"start":48.73,"end":54.34,"text":"I'm going to check with Henry."},{"start":55.24,"end":56.48,"text":"Do you want Henry to come in first?"},{"start":56.78,"end":59.26,"text":"Because of the meeting, it's agreed that Mike goes late as 10.30."},{"start":59.3,"end":60.24,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":60.52,"end":61.06,"text":"I'll just wait."},{"start":66.4,"end":73.56,"text":"I don't want to be caught out of my mind, so I'll just say that I'm in a breakfast meeting this morning and I'll be in around 10 o'clock."},{"start":73.76,"end":74.28,"text":"We'll call."},{"start":74.72,"end":75.52,"text":"Can you get that in process?"},{"start":76.02,"end":76.34,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":76.88,"end":78.06,"text":"Can you tell that again?"},{"start":78.08,"end":78.24,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":78.26,"end":78.34,"text":"Okay."},{"start":78.36,"end":82.4,"text":"In the meantime, I'll just wait to hear from you then."},{"start":83.02,"end":83.5,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":83.52,"end":83.66,"text":"Bye."},{"start":84.42,"end":85.24,"text":"And I'll just wait here."},{"start":85.26,"end":86.08,"text":"Thank you for waiting."},{"start":86.32,"end":87.04,"text":"I'll know."},{"start":87.08,"end":89.56,"text":"I'll know when you think he's going to be in that phone."},{"start":89.58,"end":90.08,"text":"Okay."},{"start":90.84,"end":92.55,"text":"I said he'd be there in 10 until 8."},{"start":93.05,"end":93.53,"text":"All right."},{"start":93.79,"end":94.39,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinated the President's schedule regarding a meeting with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew. They discussed the timing of Agnew's visit in relation to briefings involving Henry Kissinger and Anatoliy Dobrynin. 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