{"conversationCode":"825-011","tapeNumber":825,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-825-011","startDateTime":"1972-12-16T16:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-16T16:09:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Dec-1972","startTime":"11:08 AM","endDate":"16-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:09 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Dunn, Thomas G.;","description":"On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Thomas G. Dunn met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:08 am to 11:09 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 825-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 825-11\n\nDate: December 16, 1972\nTime: 11:08 am- 11:09 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Thomas G. Dunn.\n\n[See Conversation No. 34-95]","filename":["825-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Dunn, Thomas G."],"prevCode":"825-010","nextCode":"825-012","transcript":[{"start":2.08,"end":10.71,"text":"Well, they tell me you're going in for that open-heart surgery, and I know that you don't need any good wishes because you're going to make it."},{"start":10.74,"end":13.27,"text":"But I saw your son last night, admired his red beard."},{"start":13.33,"end":15.77,"text":"And I said, can you tell your dad to have that old spirit?"},{"start":20.25,"end":20.63,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":22.53,"end":26.9,"text":"Well, they all work these days, all these doctors and mutants."},{"start":26.94,"end":29.56,"text":"When they've got a tough Irishman to work on, there's no problem."},{"start":31.76,"end":45.13,"text":"Well, I know it's going to be tough, you know what I mean, but you'll make it."},{"start":46.77,"end":48.53,"text":"Merry Christmas to you and a happy New Year."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met briefly with Thomas G. Dunn to offer personal encouragement and well-wishes prior to Dunn’s upcoming open-heart surgery. Nixon expressed confidence in Dunn’s recovery, referencing his strong character and shared connections with Dunn's son. The conversation served as a private gesture of support during a difficult health challenge.","topics":["Personal well-wishes","Health","Surgery","Presidential relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:34:58.562Z"},"topicSlugs":["personal-well-wishes","health","surgery","presidential-relations"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"825-011.mp3","bytes":1308995,"durationSec":54.4,"bitrate":192499,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/825-011.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/825-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/825/conversation-825-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}