{"conversationCode":"825-012","tapeNumber":825,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-825-012","startDateTime":"1972-12-16T16:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-16T16:25:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Dec-1972","startTime":"11:09 AM","endDate":"16-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:25 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:25 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 825-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 825-12\n\nDate: December 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:09 am and 11:25 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez and Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                                -26-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 825-12 (cont’d)\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n            -Meeting with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n                  -Haig’s possible conversation with Henry A. Kissinger\n            -Location\n                  -Ronald L. Ziegler’s office\n\nSanchez and Bull left at an unknown time before 11:25 am.","filename":["825-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"825-011","nextCode":"825-013","transcript":[{"start":0.76,"end":4.8,"text":"Oh, you can go over to the internet and see it there."},{"start":4.84,"end":5.16,"text":"Let's see it."},{"start":5.18,"end":5.82,"text":"Hey, that's better."},{"start":6.14,"end":7.36,"text":"Let's just talk to Henry."},{"start":8.36,"end":9.08,"text":"Don't bother."},{"start":9.1,"end":14,"text":"I just want to talk to him before I leave the policy."},{"start":14.02,"end":14.46,"text":"Yeah, indeed."},{"start":14.48,"end":18,"text":"See you later, Paul."},{"start":18.08,"end":19.06,"text":"See you later."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal aide Manolo Sanchez and appointments secretary Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his upcoming schedule and staff interactions. The discussion focused on logistics regarding his movement to the Executive Office Building and a planned meeting with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. They also addressed the necessity of Haig consulting with Henry Kissinger to align on policy directives before the President’s departure.","topics":["Presidential Schedule","Alexander Haig","Henry Kissinger","Executive Office Building","White House Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:35:04.277Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","alexander-haig","henry-kissinger","executive-office-building","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":24,"audioFiles":[{"file":"825-012.mp3","bytes":578645,"durationSec":23.96,"bitrate":193203,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:41.156Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/825-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/825-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/825/conversation-825-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}