{"conversationCode":"825-013","tapeNumber":825,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-825-013","startDateTime":"1972-12-16T16:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-16T16:25:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Dec-1972","startTime":"11:09 AM","endDate":"16-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:25 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:25 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 825-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 825-13\n\nDate: December 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:09 am and 11:25 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s meeting with Henry A. Kissinger\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:25 am.","filename":["825-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"825-012","nextCode":"825-014","transcript":[{"start":0.52,"end":2.82,"text":"I'm going to let it out, Alex."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his daily schedule and manage internal communications. The discussion centered on an upcoming meeting between Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Henry A. Kissinger. Nixon provided clear instructions to Bull regarding the logistics of this high-level briefing.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Alexander Haig","Henry Kissinger","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:35:09.574Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","alexander-haig","henry-kissinger","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"825-013.mp3","bytes":211251,"durationSec":8.65,"bitrate":195301,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/825-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/825-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/825/conversation-825-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}