{"conversationCode":"827-005","tapeNumber":827,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-827-005","startDateTime":"1972-12-20T15:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-20T15:20:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Dec-1972","startTime":"10:16 AM","endDate":"20-Dec-1972","endTime":"10:20 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:16 am and 10:20 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 827-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 827-5\n\nDate: December 20, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:16 am and 10:20 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Henry A. Kissinger’s schedule\n                  -Budget briefing\n                         -Duration\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:20 am.","filename":["827-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"827-004","nextCode":"827-006","transcript":[{"start":0.89,"end":4.03,"text":"It may last upwards of two hours."},{"start":4.13,"end":5.11,"text":"Dark now?"},{"start":5.29,"end":5.61,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.69,"end":6.05,"text":"Okay."},{"start":6.19,"end":6.29,"text":"Ask..."},{"start":6.45,"end":11.49,"text":"Okay, I'll start back again."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to review and finalize the details of the President’s upcoming schedule. The discussion specifically focused on coordinating Henry Kissinger's availability for an extended budget briefing. The participants sought to clarify the expected duration of this briefing to ensure proper time management for the President.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Henry Kissinger","Budget briefing","Time management","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:37:08.975Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","henry-kissinger","budget-briefing","time-management","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"827-005.mp3","bytes":733488,"durationSec":30.43,"bitrate":192853,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/827-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/827-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/827/conversation-827-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}