{"conversationCode":"827-015","tapeNumber":827,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-827-015","startDateTime":"1972-12-20T19:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-20T19:40:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:36 PM","endDate":"20-Dec-1972","endTime":"2:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On December 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:36 pm to 2:40 pm. 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Acker\n                 -Presidential Seal\n                 -Music bar\n            -Color\n            -Number\n\n       The President’s letter to Ronald Kessler\n            -Dictation\n                  -Dictaphone\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Telephone calls\n                  -J[ean] Paul Getty\n                  -Deborah [?] Morrison\n                         -Previous correspondence\n                         -Death of husband\n                  -Birthdays\n                         -Congressional relations\n\n       Clifford Moore\n             -Telephone call\n                   -The President’s letter to Kessler\n                        -Dictation\n                              -Dictaphone\n\nThe President replayed a portion of his dictation.\n\f                                               -39-\n\n                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                          (rev. July-08)\n\n                                                              Conversation No. 827-15 (cont’d)\n\nRose Woods left at 2:40 pm.\n\n[This letter continues as Conversation No. 827-16]","filename":["827-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"827-014","nextCode":"827-016","transcript":[{"start":10.79,"end":14.99,"text":"And there are a few different ones."},{"start":15.11,"end":17.68,"text":"One has its own music bar."},{"start":38.95,"end":45.42,"text":"And then in that red, red box, there'll be some beauty."},{"start":67.78,"end":74.27,"text":"But because they're individually made, you know, you can't get, like, 200 at once, unfortunately."},{"start":74.29,"end":75.11,"text":"No problem at all."},{"start":75.23,"end":77.35,"text":"And may I put this in?"},{"start":77.41,"end":78.99,"text":"I gave you this."},{"start":79.19,"end":82.03,"text":"This is a piece."},{"start":82.31,"end":82.73,"text":"Okay."},{"start":82.75,"end":84.05,"text":"All right."},{"start":84.33,"end":87.91,"text":"And this is too tall, so you promised me you'd make it."},{"start":87.95,"end":88.59,"text":"Yeah, I'll get it."},{"start":88.63,"end":89.93,"text":"I'll get it."},{"start":89.99,"end":90.61,"text":"Of course."},{"start":93.14,"end":95.71,"text":"Well, that's the lady that you told me you wanted to call with."},{"start":95.81,"end":97.25,"text":"The correspondence is attached."},{"start":97.42,"end":100.6,"text":"She's the one who backed you up even though her husband died after."},{"start":101.06,"end":102.03,"text":"Okay."},{"start":102.05,"end":102.39,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":105.44,"end":112.57,"text":"Unless they are somebody that we're getting a special party, we're not going to hold a congressional party."},{"start":112.67,"end":116.35,"text":"They've got so many people piled up, and it means nothing."},{"start":116.37,"end":119.83,"text":"So we're not going to hold them."},{"start":120.14,"end":131.71,"text":"And the same with the calls, because if there's too many, we can make more useful calls from other people."},{"start":133.83,"end":134.91,"text":"Those are very nice."},{"start":135.13,"end":136.51,"text":"I think people will like them."},{"start":136.53,"end":137.07,"text":"I think they will."},{"start":137.09,"end":139.21,"text":"I think you'll be better home than having to go back to prison."},{"start":139.59,"end":140.37,"text":"This was made up."},{"start":140.39,"end":141.15,"text":"It was a terrible time."},{"start":141.63,"end":142.47,"text":"You'll follow through."},{"start":142.53,"end":143.87,"text":"See, she gets a telephone call."},{"start":145.03,"end":146.97,"text":"You just call her."},{"start":146.99,"end":148.03,"text":"I mean, write her the note."},{"start":148.05,"end":150.17,"text":"We'll just send the note out to her, and then I'll call her."},{"start":150.23,"end":150.37,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":150.39,"end":151.5,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":151.72,"end":154.92,"text":"And I'll write this and put the subject upon me before she comes."},{"start":154.94,"end":155.22,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon met with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to manage administrative tasks, including the selection of gifts and the coordination of presidential correspondence. They discussed the distribution of custom-made music boxes and reviewed letters to individuals such as Ronald Kessler. Nixon also decided to reduce the number of congressional birthday calls and events, opting instead to prioritize more impactful outreach.","topics":["White House gifts","Presidential correspondence","Congressional relations","Administrative management","Rose Mary Woods"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:38:06.954Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-gifts","presidential-correspondence","congressional-relations","administrative-management","rose-mary-woods"],"audioDurationSec":161,"audioFiles":[{"file":"827-015.mp3","bytes":3867530,"durationSec":161,"bitrate":192175,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/827-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/827-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/827/conversation-827-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}