{"conversationCode":"827-018","tapeNumber":827,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-827-018","startDateTime":"1972-12-20T19:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-20T19:46:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Dec-1972","startTime":"2:45 PM","endDate":"20-Dec-1972","endTime":"2:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On December 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:45 pm to 2:46 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 827-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 827-18\n\nDate: December 20, 1972\nTime: 2:45 pm and 2:46 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n       The President’s letter to Ronald Kessler\n            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Meeting with Saul Pett\n                  -Woods’s possible meeting with Pett\n                         -Pett’s identity\n                               -Associated Press [AP]\n                                      -New York\n                                      -“Color pieces”\n                               -Relationship with the administration\n\nRose Woods left at 2:46 pm.\n\f                                              -41-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["827-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"827-017","nextCode":"827-019","transcript":[{"start":0.74,"end":2.68,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":2.96,"end":6.35,"text":"Oh, here it is."},{"start":6.53,"end":12.33,"text":"Did you say it's called Solve-Fest this time?"},{"start":12.37,"end":12.87,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":17.63,"end":18.23,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":18.27,"end":22.64,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":22.76,"end":23.3,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":23.32,"end":24.08,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":25.28,"end":25.64,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":25.68,"end":27.08,"text":"Solve-Fest."},{"start":36.35,"end":39.01,"text":"He's from New York now, wearing his colored pieces."},{"start":39.09,"end":47.16,"text":"I may have to drop in and see after I see him."},{"start":47.22,"end":47.52,"text":"Just do it."},{"start":47.58,"end":48.04,"text":"He's spreading."},{"start":48.06,"end":50.9,"text":"He's not a, he's an evil man."},{"start":51.08,"end":53.97,"text":"I'll have a feel of that guy."},{"start":53.99,"end":56.67,"text":"I don't know whether I want to see him, okay?"},{"start":56.93,"end":57.17,"text":"Okay."},{"start":58.05,"end":60.61,"text":"Saul Petty, E-E-T-T-T. Hi."},{"start":60.77,"end":60.99,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary Rose Mary Woods briefly discuss the President's upcoming meeting with Associated Press reporter Saul Pett. They weigh the potential value of the interaction, with the President expressing skepticism about Pett's reputation and character. Ultimately, Nixon instructs Woods to gauge the reporter's intentions and determine whether a meeting is advisable.","topics":["Saul Pett","Associated Press","Media relations","Presidential schedule","Rose Mary Woods"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-08T00:38:24.005Z"},"topicSlugs":["saul-pett","associated-press","media-relations","presidential-schedule","rose-mary-woods"],"audioDurationSec":68,"audioFiles":[{"file":"827-018.mp3","bytes":1632497,"durationSec":67.88,"bitrate":192397,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:59.848Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:41.724Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/827-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/827-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/827/conversation-827-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}